Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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DevILLDawg
Are we seriously in on any Plus Athletes? Mich St will beat our current roster back in transition off our own makes. (I'm including Big Mirk as the 4 in this scenario).
 
#79      
PoCo_Illini
My opinion is totally about fit not necessarily the cost, obviously some of players available are highly talented and come with a price tag, but my major concern more than anything is bringing in guys with no character issues or guys we pay for talent but are just wanting a payday and us playing mediocre. I am glad to see we are getting older, I feel that just lowers our floor. I feel like the money is there if Illinois wants them they can pay them, I believe fit and attitude may be everything...
 
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the juiceman cometh
ColSLU69 said:
While you're at it, check on Center Efton Reid III of Wake Forest. He's apparently listed in the portal, but he's played 4 consecutive seasons of at least 25 games; 1 at LSU, 1 at Gonzaga, and 2 at Wake Forest.
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Hasn't there been talk of maybe doing away with redshirts and just giving everyone 5 years eligibility? Perhaps these players went in the portal in the hopes that such a rule change will be implemented prior to next season, giving them an additional year.
 
#82      
jsmoke2215
It's such an easy thing to fix honestly. Players should only be able to enroll in 2 schools in their collegiate career. Only exception should be if their current head coach leaves. Then granted a 3rd. Fixes the issue to a degree while keeping a good amount of fairness for the players.

Good luck to Morez Johnson bouncing out of a good situation in Illinois and taking a chance that Michigan will treat him right. If they don't, he's stuck there. Would be less of this nonsense.
 
#84      
illinoisgrad1990
CoachHooleyHoo said:
One of the worst things about transfer season/the portal is that it gives voice to complete morons that act like experts/insiders who just throw out all kinds of crap looking for clicks. And I’m not talking about any of the insiders on here…I’m talking about social media.
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Agreed. There's plenty of disinformation in the world, and this is just one more way for it to be problematic. Which brings me to Morez. I've been feeling somewhat queasy about how quickly the narrative formed that he and his father were asking for a role that doesn't seem to play to his strengths and that they were more interested in money than loyalty. It was just so out of the blue, and seems to have been based on one purported insider account on social media that has been noted to be not completely trustworthy in the past. It very quickly became accepted knowledge among Illini Nation. But is it true?

I've heard Derek Piper, who I DO consider a trustworthy source, allude to a change of heart for Morez and his family and so that backs up the questionable account above to some degree. I just hate the thought of Morez coming back to SFC next season and getting the Skyy treatment x100, perhaps based on an inflated and/or inaccurate narrative that has formed about why he left. It would have helped if he had attempted some sort of statement to the fanbase. Losing a fan favorite (certainly one of my favorites) in this way, and to Michigan, and without any sort of explanation or closure just really leaves a bad taste.
 
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the juiceman cometh
jsmoke2215 said:
It's such an easy thing to fix honestly. Players should only be able to enroll in 2 schools in their collegiate career. Only exception should be if their current head coach leaves. Then granted a 3rd. Fixes the issue to a degree while keeping a good amount of fairness for the players.

Good luck to Morez Johnson bouncing out of a good situation in Illinois and taking a chance that Michigan will treat him right. If they don't, he's stuck there. Would be less of this nonsense.
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The problem is there will always be cases where a strict rule like this doesn't seem fair. Take a player who goes to one school, doesn't get playing time so he transfers after one season to another school where he does get playing time, but after 2 seasons there now his mom gets sick and dying and he wants to finish out his eligibility at school #3 which is 10 miles from home, and will allow him to be with and help care for his dying mom, and maybe she can even make it out to a couple home games before she passes. What do we do? Do we say, naw kid, you either continue to play where you're at and see your mom in the offseason, if she's still around, or you quit basketball. Or do we reinstitute the waiver system?

OK, well we reinstitute waivers, but now we're getting thousands of waiver requests, and in trying to keep up with them, we're being either too lax with them (so many transfers now, why even have limits?) or too strict (kids that should have gotten their waiver don't, everyone is upset), or we're being inconsistent (out come the pitchforks). So then what? Well, lets do away with waivers, do away with transfer limits, that way it's the same rules for everyone, i.e. transfer portals and mostly open movement. Back to square one.

At least everyone will be happy now, right? Right?
 
#86      
New Creation
Still wondering how the Morez camp is feeling since they committed to Michigan. What do you think Dusty is tell them, especially after Drexel committed.
 
#87      
pruman91
jsmoke2215 said:
It's such an easy thing to fix honestly. Players should only be able to enroll in 2 schools in their collegiate career. Only exception should be if their current head coach leaves. Then granted a 3rd. Fixes the issue to a degree while keeping a good amount of fairness for the players.

Good luck to Morez Johnson bouncing out of a good situation in Illinois and taking a chance that Michigan will treat him right. If they don't, he's stuck there. Would be less of this nonsense.
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mr. johnson jr could be another " 4 teams in 4 years nomad traveller ".........since he basically burned all bridges related to the Illini I absolutely don't care if scUM treats him fairly or not...............I really really don't.......
 
#88      
PepeSilvia
DevILLDawg said:
Are we seriously in on any Plus Athletes? Mich St will beat our current roster back in transition off our own makes. (I'm including Big Mirk as the 4 in this scenario).
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If you are figuring Boswell, Ty, and the Ivisic's plus Kirk as 5 spots, I would sincerely hope for 3 more additions where all of them are athletes.
 
#89      
IlliniFan42
jsmoke2215 said:
It's such an easy thing to fix honestly. Players should only be able to enroll in 2 schools in their collegiate career. Only exception should be if their current head coach leaves. Then granted a 3rd. Fixes the issue to a degree while keeping a good amount of fairness for the players.

Good luck to Morez Johnson bouncing out of a good situation in Illinois and taking a chance that Michigan will treat him right. If they don't, he's stuck there. Would be less of this nonsense.
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Any limitation like this violates the concept of athletes being students, just in the opposite direction.
 
#91      
DevILLDawg
PepeSilvia said:
If you are figuring Boswell, Ty, and the Ivisic's plus Kirk as 5 spots, I would sincerely hope for 3 more additions where all of them are athletes.
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The SG we are waiting to hit the portal MAY not be a plus athlete either, btw. 👀🤷‍♂️
 
#92      
CoalCity
jsmoke2215 said:
It's such an easy thing to fix honestly. Players should only be able to enroll in 2 schools in their collegiate career. Only exception should be if their current head coach leaves. Then granted a 3rd. Fixes the issue to a degree while keeping a good amount of fairness for the players.

Good luck to Morez Johnson bouncing out of a good situation in Illinois and taking a chance that Michigan will treat him right. If they don't, he's stuck there. Would be less of this nonsense.
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That would be thrown out before it ever got to the courtroom
 
#93      
jsmoke2215
IlliniFan42 said:
Any limitation like this violates the concept of athletes being students, just in the opposite direction.
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It just seems bizarre to me these college kids have more rights than MLB or NBA or NFL players. MLB players are drafted and then they owe 7 years of loyalty to that team, regardless of how that team treats them. 4 year actual deal and then 3 years mandatory arbitration. I don't have all of the answers, but it seems pretty obvious these kids are being given way too much at the moment, and some of it is to their detriment as well.
 
#94      
EyeoftheIllini
jsmoke2215 said:
It's such an easy thing to fix honestly. Players should only be able to enroll in 2 schools in their collegiate career. Only exception should be if their current head coach leaves. Then granted a 3rd. Fixes the issue to a degree while keeping a good amount of fairness for the players.

Good luck to Morez Johnson bouncing out of a good situation in Illinois and taking a chance that Michigan will treat him right. If they don't, he's stuck there. Would be less of this nonsense.
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Weren’t the previous transfer rules over turned in court? Not sure what you purpose wouldn’t have the same fate.
 
#96      
HensonHall71
New Creation said:
Still wondering how the Morez camp is feeling since they committed to Michigan. What do you think Dusty is tell them, especially after Drexel committed.
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Yaxel is currently mocked in the the first round frequently - he said himself after committing to Michigan he's 80% likely to stay in the draft, so the Morez camp is probably waiting it out. Rumor number for Yaxel was $5M which is insane, but I can see why he would commit there even if he thinks he's going pro.
 
#100      
Indy Illini Fan
djkirkpatrick22 said:
See he's from Bronx... OA have any ties to this one?
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Look where he played HS …

Not talking specifically about which HS … Just more so the area … Connections … Etc.

But Bernard Kouma did come from OSL …

O is VERY connected …

Lets Go Sport GIF by Fighting Illini Athletics
 
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