Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Mistakenj
This ranking seems more accurate

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#77      
Goillinikobd
Same team, different perspective, given Michigan’s portal pilfers is there any scenario in which we end up with a better roster than them?
 
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Illiniguy13
RollChief said:
I’m writing here today on what seems like another slow news day of disputing whether or not now is the time to panic about the Illini’s basketball season or college basketball on the whole being ruined with an idea – I’ll preface this proposal with the more I think about it, the more I feel like the kid that raises his hand right before class ends and asks about the homework that is due today which the teacher forgot to mention, but hear me out here:

While temporarily escaping into sports fandom today, like many others on this board do midday on a Friday, I was reading KenPom’s latest blog post. This post was about the results of the H.U.M.A.N poll, which KP polls users to establish preseason rankings picked purely by fans, by giving users the option to pick 50 head-to-head matchups for who is going to be the higher-ranked team by the end of the year. From this, a preseason list is established. It’s essentially a thought experiment and doesn’t feed into data on his actual algorithm.

In his blog post, he posted a statement from this year’s best picker (Champion Ball-Knower of the Year), who is a UCONN fan (you can read the full post with the statement here). The thing that caught my eye is the guy mentioned “I'm a contributing writer to Storrs Central, a media website that spun off of the Bleeding Blue For Good NIL collective. 100% of subscription profit from the site pays NIL deals to UConn athletes (staff is paid by website sponsors/ads).”

I know the Storrs Central isn’t a message board, but this caught my eye because I tried to look at Duke’s equivalent of Illinois Loyalty yesterday and realized that you have to pay to use their site. It got me thinking that what if this board implemented a membership fee to view/contribute where proceeds went NIL pot? If other major programs have enough of a following, don’t we? I mentioned this a few weeks ago, but Illinois is the 4th most tracked team on KenPom out of 365 D-1 schools, so there is clearly a pretty large fan base both using this site and other sites like KenPom.

Just food for thought, but if @Dan decided to implement a paywall for this site where the subscription fees went to pay for the betterment of our programs, I would not complain about this. Maybe a hot take but if we’re a championship caliber message board then maybe we should pay like one.

I know I have a tendency to be a bit of a KenPom glazer on here but a blog he wrote earlier this week about the (positive) effects of NIL and the transfer portal on college basketball provided some good thoughts on arguments had on here every day, so is definitely worth a read: NIL and the transfer portal has made college hoops better than ever.
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#87      
jumpingjack
Battle89 said:
Might be my most-disliked post I have ever read here. I write that not knowing if I will be in the majority or in the minority and not really giving a damn. Your homework example above is very apt.

I have zero interest is being forced to contribute to NIL with a 'personal reading license'. Some here give money to NIL already, some pay with IFund donations (not NIL I know) for seating, others buy NIL shirts. Some do nothing. All are their prerogative.

You'd drive away many of the posters who make this site great. Now if you want to make an alternative argument that Dan should be compensated for his efforts, above whatever ad revenue he earns, I'm listening. I still don't want it, because I think it would fundamentally change this place, but it's what I do to read Robert.
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I contribute plenty to the athletic department and NIL, and I would cancel my account on day 1 of a paywall, regardless of who is pocketing the money.
 
#94      
Illini2010-11
IndyOrange said:
This is insane. Need to have a salary cap.
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To do that, then there needs to be a major structural change to the system (i.e., making players employees). This would likely require some form of collective bargaining agreement with the NCAA and players. The NCAA cannot even effectively enforce transfer rules, and we expect them to be able to install a form of salary cap...

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I actually think that this type of change would actually completely destroy the NCAA, and would go to the world order of the SEC and B1G (where nearly all the money is). We are almost already approaching that direction of a college league of 30-40 teams with two conference "divisions".
 
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Dan
RollChief said:
I’m writing here today on what seems like another slow news day of disputing whether or not now is the time to panic about the Illini’s basketball season or college basketball on the whole being ruined with an idea – I’ll preface this proposal with the more I think about it, the more I feel like the kid that raises his hand right before class ends and asks about the homework that is due today which the teacher forgot to mention, but hear me out here:

While temporarily escaping into sports fandom today, like many others on this board do midday on a Friday, I was reading KenPom’s latest blog post. This post was about the results of the H.U.M.A.N poll, which KP polls users to establish preseason rankings picked purely by fans, by giving users the option to pick 50 head-to-head matchups for who is going to be the higher-ranked team by the end of the year. From this, a preseason list is established. It’s essentially a thought experiment and doesn’t feed into data on his actual algorithm.

In his blog post, he posted a statement from this year’s best picker (Champion Ball-Knower of the Year), who is a UCONN fan (you can read the full post with the statement here). The thing that caught my eye is the guy mentioned “I'm a contributing writer to Storrs Central, a media website that spun off of the Bleeding Blue For Good NIL collective. 100% of subscription profit from the site pays NIL deals to UConn athletes (staff is paid by website sponsors/ads).”

I know the Storrs Central isn’t a message board, but this caught my eye because I tried to look at Duke’s equivalent of Illinois Loyalty yesterday and realized that you have to pay to use their site. It got me thinking that what if this board implemented a membership fee to view/contribute where proceeds went NIL pot? If other major programs have enough of a following, don’t we? I mentioned this a few weeks ago, but Illinois is the 4th most tracked team on KenPom out of 365 D-1 schools, so there is clearly a pretty large fan base both using this site and other sites like KenPom.

Just food for thought, but if @Dan decided to implement a paywall for this site where the subscription fees went to pay for the betterment of our programs, I would not complain about this. Maybe a hot take but if we’re a championship caliber message board then maybe we should pay like one.

I know I have a tendency to be a bit of a KenPom glazer on here but a blog he wrote earlier this week about the (positive) effects of NIL and the transfer portal on college basketball provided some good thoughts on arguments had on here every day, so is definitely worth a read: NIL and the transfer portal has made college hoops better than ever.
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RollChief said:
Maybe a hot take but if we’re a championship caliber message board then maybe we should pay like one.
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In all seriousness -- and thanks for the message RollChief -- there are no plans to change the structure of this site. Go Illini!
 
#98      
BalloonsTheElephant
Last year everyone was just going crazy that Storr got $1mil and it was something that was outside the realm of rational thought just the year before. Then by the end of it all, Coleman Hawkins gets $2mil.

Now tier 2 guys are talking $2mil, and top tier playets are $3mil+. What Coleman level player is going to get $5mil in June. Will $5mil be what someone like Dix is asking for next year?

I feel like we are starting to really separate who really has money and who doesn't and hopefully we are coming to a head here. I don't know how it's sustainable.
 
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