Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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There are some that questioned whether Adam Miller would be good enough to play here …

Here’s the list of a few schools that think he is good enough to play for them … Gonzaga, NC State, Arizona, Auburn, Duke, Florida, Texas Tech, Ole Miss, Iowa State, Arkansas, Memphis, and many more …

Performance/experience aside (of which is certainly good enough to get minutes on a tournament team). I think the larger fan base would appreciate having a local kid back on the roster.

I'm all for the Euro talent, but part of what makes college athletics special is the connection to players on our teams. Peoria/Chicago pipeline will always hold weight with fans.
 
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all I'm saying is that if I'm a fan and the the team sends their top 10 lottery pick to the G league for the year, that's not good...a top 10 pick should be an impact player...if hes a low first round or lower than yes G League might be best.
I agree with you 1000000%, which is why(outside of future potential), KJ is a lottery pick. He's got the tools and measurables, no doubt. However, he is extremely far away from being a consistent contributor or a contributor at all in year one. Hed have to have had a meteoric development rise between April to October to get a role on the "big club" in year 1.
 
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Okay, here's my shot... for today... at roster predicting/building. R= Returnee (6), F= Freshman (3), T= Transfer (5).

Kylan Boswell (R), Samage Teel (T), Brandon Lee (F)

Kennard Davis Jr (T), Adam Miller (T), Keaton Wagler (F)

Andrej Stojakovic (T), Ty Rodgers (R), Jake Davis (R)

David Mirkovic (F), Ben Humrichous (R), Jason Jakstys (R)

Tomislav Ivisic (R), Zvonimir Ivisic (T)

Plus, one open scholarship.
This looks like a realistic result or similar. Feels like Illinois is trying to pay 2024 NIL in 2025 and simply not competitive on the wing market.

I definitely like grabbing Teel or someone similar to get an actual backup PG over trying to non-PGs like Rodgers/Miller out there in that role. Boswell's never put together a good full season as a full-time college PG.

Even if you're pretty close on what the actual results may be, I'm not crazy at all about this team. Complete lack of athleticism, physicality, and guys that can get to the hoop and score. Feels like an Iowa-like below the rim team that'll be a turnstile defensively. Way too much duplicate parts for my liking.

JMO They've absolutely got to hit a home run on one of these wings. Neither Davis or Stojakovic is that for me (Stojakovic is fine if you hit on the 2). Desperately need an athlete that can get to the bucket and score regularly. No offense to Kennard Davis at all. Solid player for his level at Southern but give me AJ Storr all day and all night at the 2 over him. Different caliber athlete and player. I get people will disagree as his value is currently severely depressed but I think getting Storr would wind up being considered a victory for this year's Illini portal when it's all said and done.
 
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#130      
There are some that questioned whether Adam Miller would be good enough to play here …

Here’s the list of a few schools that think he is good enough to play for them … Gonzaga, NC State, Arizona, Auburn, Duke, Florida, Texas Tech, Ole Miss, Iowa State, Arkansas, Memphis, and many more …
I think it has to be sour grapes from some.

He was a starter (as a freshman) on an excellent Illini team that got a 1 seed. Three more years in college to mature, and wanting to come back here...of course he is good enough to play here (I do not need to see the list of other high-quality programs lining up to scoop him in). It is also a good look for the program that a player wants to come back and play here again. As long as he and Brad are agreeable to what his role could look like here, he is a 100% welcome home!
 
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Think we get some Miller news in the next few days. Baring something late happening, he is going to be at Illinois next season.
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I think it has to be sour grapes from some.

He was a starter (as a freshman) on an excellent Illini team that got a 1 seed. Three more years in college to mature, and wanting to come back here...of course he is good enough to play here (I do not need to see the list of other high-quality programs lining up to scoop him in). It is also a good look for the program that a player wants to come back and play here again. As long as he and Brad are agreeable to what his role could look like here, he is a 100% welcome home!
The most common argument I've seen for why it is a good thing is that Miller will care about the opponents' jerseys. If that was true, why would he go to Arizona State in the first place? Again, as many have mentioned, if he's a 15 minute guy off the bench, it's likely fine. If they are counting on him as a starter, it's bad news.
 
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I get what you're saying but I'm not an NBA scout and trust they know more about what they're looking for. You are not an NBA scout either right?

With you on that one. Podz was probably BU's biggest whiff!
 
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There are some that questioned whether Adam Miller would be good enough to play here …

Here’s the list of a few schools that think he is good enough to play for them … Gonzaga, NC State, Arizona, Auburn, Duke, Florida, Texas Tech, Ole Miss, Iowa State, Arkansas, Memphis, and many more …
Frankly, what school wouldn't want a senior who has started his whole career and just shot 43% from three to come off your bench. These are the type of pickups that make a team really deep when they can have proven starters as rotational players.

If our bench is Ty, Ace, Big Z and Ben - all of those players were starters for very good teams - we'd have the most experienced/best bench in the country
 
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I agree with you 1000000%, which is why(outside of future potential), KJ is a lottery pick. He's got the tools and measurables, no doubt. However, he is extremely far away from being a consistent contributor or a contributor at all in year one. Hed have to have had a meteoric development rise between April to October to get a role on the "big club" in year 1.
cool I'm glad we agree on this...but if NBA teams thought he was not ready and need a year in the G League, he'd be projected much lower...late 1st...but it seems the majority of NBA insiders consider him a top 10 pick, which seems that they like what he can bring to the court more than you do, and value what he does do well. Remember, once he's on a team, he will get more coaching than 20 hours a week in college...all of his flaws will be drilled and fixed.
 
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There are some that questioned whether Adam Miller would be good enough to play here
Lol we literally watched him be good enough to play here as a freshman on a #1 seed.

He hasn't really made a jump to be better than he was as a freshman but he still should be able to play that role. Though I do think the the best college teamers are better and deeper now due to the NIL inflation than they are then.
 
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Look at the commentary during the season. Many, if not all, of those same people will criticize anything that we do....even in winning. There's always an issue with something.

Unless it's Sarr coming or Riley coming back, they'll be critical.

Adam would be a phenomenal pickup.

If we can lock up two bonafide bucket getters at the 2 and 3..... we'll be ready to roll. That's the "if" that people are waiting to be solved. Anything short of they won't be good enough. Just as well embrace it.
 
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Why is this info still hush-hush?
Doesn't seem that way in this Ringer writeup (which is a fun read in general and also features Podz as one of KJ's comps)

SCOUTING REPORT BY J. Kyle Mann
I love players who can rapidly “stack” actions. Players who know, instinctively, how to respond to whatever the defense is doing with rapid-fire decisions. Jakucionis, the Lithuanian guard who left FC Barcelona to star for Illinois this season, might be the best at it of anyone in this draft. He’s the type of role-malleable triple threat that every team in the league could use.

Jakucionis fits a flattering Euro stereotype for guards in that he has an almost joyous bobbing rhythm in the way he moves with the ball—a command for starting and stopping that really puts defenders in a less joyous place. Jakucionis, despite having credible size for his position, isn’t exceptionally long or blazingly fast. He does, however, have a low center of gravity and can be very quick from side to side or in situations when he suddenly bursts to attack after lulling his man into a spot.

Jakucionis is also a fantastic passer. In fact, I’d put him just a step or so behind BYU’s Egor Demin in terms of pure creativity. He’s able to consistently survey where his open teammate is or is about to be, where in the defense he needs to sell a fake, what type of fake that should be, and finally, what type of pass should be the solution. I don’t penalize a prospect for experimentation (I love it, actually), and that’s why I don’t really grind my teeth over Jakucionis’s ugly turnover percentage (second highest among the 164 players who posted 150 or more pick-and-roll reps). For one, he was battling a nagging forearm injury for nearly half the season while playing in a physically demanding conference, and for another, the best problem-solvers break eggs when they’re making omelets. Jakucionis definitely has stints of letting his guard down while protecting the ball, but he tries things, and at this stage, I am all for that.

Ultimately, Jakucionis’s success at the next level will live or die with his credibility as a scorer, and while I don’t think he is an “If it’s in the air, jog the other way” type of marksman, I’m optimistic he’ll be a consistent threat as a shooter. Through January 1 (so, pre-injury), Jakucionis was hitting 41.4 of his 3s, and the types of attempts varied—a blend of stepbacks in isolation and dribble pull-ups in the pick-and-roll and catch-and-shoot looks. Post-injury, his self-created 3s dried up almost entirely, which I suspect was a result of that injury to his nonshooting forearm. Beyond that, the craft in his middle game could definitely stand to progress and evolve, but he’s great when he gets to the rim. When he isn’t finishing at the basket (71.7 percent there), he relishes contact, which allows him to be a foul-generating machine. I expect his broad-shouldered frame to become a useful hammer in the paint by his mid-20s.

Jakucionis doesn’t have the kind of length or explosiveness that would give him a margin for error on defense, and he’s not particularly disruptive with his hands, so he’ll always have to work to hold up within a greater team scheme. That said, I don’t think his frame and physical tools put him in a terrible position. He’s shown that his low center of gravity, balance, and quickness can be effective in working through screens. It’ll be a challenge, but the net result should be positive.

KJ injury is the story NBA scouts are being given. Okay.
Yup, this is what a good agent does.

TSJ certainly did.
But like that's the thing, right? How much did TSJ actually improve his draft stock? 10 picks maybe? On the first round bubble those 10 picks are all important, but I feel like TSJ is a classic example of someone's season-long proof of total mastery over college basketball not really changing the shape of what the NBA saw for his future.

They do not care, at all, how good of a college basketball player you are, how much you contribute to your college basketball team winning. It's about what skills and traits you show and what those indicate about the path of your development over the next 3-5+ years.
 
#148      
There are some that questioned whether Adam Miller would be good enough to play here …

Here’s the list of a few schools that think he is good enough to play for them … Gonzaga, NC State, Arizona, Auburn, Duke, Florida, Texas Tech, Ole Miss, Iowa State, Arkansas, Memphis, and many more …
At this point, it's more of a question of whether a player is good enough to fulfill a certain role and associated price point, which is weird to say.
 
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How he does in the NBA is going to fit related. Hope he lands on the right team.
This is the key to the whole operation for him. I hope so too. I hope it's a team that really focuses on development and take the time needed to unleash his full potential. Not sure of how many teams drafting in the top 10 are going to have the patience.

I really fear that he's going to be a guy that bounces around and after five years, nobody knows what team he's on or what country that team is in.

Best wishes to the kid. It'll be fascinating to watch it unfold.

P.s....this goes tenfold for Will.
 
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