GrayGhost77
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Careful what you wish for because word on the street is that Sister Jean puts up a lot of prayers.
Where is Tony Khan and that AEW money?
No, it's not relevant. In fact, if you look at his game logs, the games where ASU got blown out were probably his worst games. In games where they won or were competitive, he was often a big factor in that.
I suspect many of those were guys who were "encouraged" to enter the portal, since no one gets cut...
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Always Illini
- Central Illinois
Just don't forget that some who are quite good players are busily testing the NBA route and those teams that are in a hurry to fill their slots may actually be settling for the so-so players when the true stars are filling in later. The 80-20 rule is premised upon a fully stocked market if I am not mistaken. This market keeps refilling the shelves over time. It is also the case that GA is still massaging Europe and those players are not on a particular portal schedule. Just isn't as clean as what your analysis calls for.
If we don't get Sarr id take Storr. If we do get sarr I'd take Miller. We need an athletic cutter that can finish and get to the line and make the FTs. Boz is good but Sarr or Storr are very good at that. Miller is ok at that but a better shooter than Storr. I do like the idea of wings like Sarr, Boz, Ty and Miller on D. I like that alot
billybaroo
- Pebble Beach, CA
Google AI tells me that the NCAA transfer rules generally require student-athletes to complete their current academic semester at their original school before transferring. That must be really awkward for some kids (especially the bridge-burning types).
redwingillini11
White and Sixth
- Batavia
I’m not a Barstool hater, but I’d be surprised if the Ace return is confirmed by Barstool Illini.
Is this being reflected because of another person’s crystal ball?
Is this being reflected because of another person’s crystal ball?
Purdue has 10 mil? That team is solid.
Please for the love of everything good and holy do not take any barstool account as a legitimate source of info.
Maybe this is recency bias with some of the misses of late, but it does seem like some of the top tier transfers become too expensive for Illinois' taste the minute they entered the portal. Why does it seem like Illinois is the only school that realize the system that is an absolute !!!! show, is not worth it. The fact that 15 teams may have a 10 million dollar roster for a 1/68 chance to win a championship?? (that's not even a guaranteed 1/68 to some schools, but I imagine for these 15 they should make the field with ease)
Eventually there will be a breaking point, and the more stories that come out like what is happening to Tennessee football, the closer I think we are getting to that breaking point. Eventually the money is going to run dry, everywhere. I don't mean in terms of having it, or willing to spend it, but in terms of wanting something in return that is even remotely close to the investment...
One million for Ace Wolf, to not raise that chance of winning anything or a ROI for the personal investor?? Insane. I realize schools get more money for each round they advance in the tournament, but that money isn't going back to boosters. The schools and their programs are keeping that money.
We need contracts, with buyouts. You want to poach our starting center, Michigan? That's fine, pay us that 1.5 million buyout on his contract, and we will use that money and flip it around for someone else. There needs to be something changed, because this is so very broken, and eventually the rich are going to get sick of wasting money on a 1.47% chance to win a National Championship...
Eventually there will be a breaking point, and the more stories that come out like what is happening to Tennessee football, the closer I think we are getting to that breaking point. Eventually the money is going to run dry, everywhere. I don't mean in terms of having it, or willing to spend it, but in terms of wanting something in return that is even remotely close to the investment...
One million for Ace Wolf, to not raise that chance of winning anything or a ROI for the personal investor?? Insane. I realize schools get more money for each round they advance in the tournament, but that money isn't going back to boosters. The schools and their programs are keeping that money.
We need contracts, with buyouts. You want to poach our starting center, Michigan? That's fine, pay us that 1.5 million buyout on his contract, and we will use that money and flip it around for someone else. There needs to be something changed, because this is so very broken, and eventually the rich are going to get sick of wasting money on a 1.47% chance to win a National Championship...
Storr to Ole Miss...
When was the last time you heard of a kid getting suspended for academics? The schools have all gotten around this academic issue with a shocking success rate somehow...
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RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
Generally speaking, donors don’t give to athletic programs for a ROI. They give for access to the program and to feel like they’re a part of it. And while they may not be particularly happy about being asked to give more money, they’ll do so because they can afford it and the need to have their ego fed is strong.
We already have eight guys rostered. Yeah it would suck not to get our transfer targets, but it's not like Wagler and Lee are unrated schmucks. They're both 4* top 150 guys, and I expect them to get good minutes at times this season.
Agree to an extent, but we are not talking normal donation monetary values for these NIL deals
Damn. Wilkerson is a very good scorer. Was hoping he'd stay out of the Big Ten. Especially not going to Michigan or Indiana.
illinois doesnt make the cut.
What's happened here is attrition. Teams are being left completely vacant of talent (like Baylor) and now that creates an urgency to fill out a roster. Teams are more willing to overpay, especially for high-end talent, because there will only be so much of it. The value of all players rises as a result. "THis guy got 1.5M? Well I score more than he does so I should get the same!" This is why this whole system is unsustainable. There is money out there for these players, but that money isn't going to be there forever. Not to mention sometimes you hit up donors to update your facilities, and now those donors are almost directly paying these guys. It's not some infinite money tree. Something is going to bottleneck eventually and donors are going to say no, especially if the team they're paying doesn't win. Then what happens?
This whole system is going to collapse in on itself, and some of these players are going to be left holding the bag and going to a program they didn't want because the money will have dried up.
I think this is mostly the correct analysis. I think if we get Sarr he might end up better than KJ, who at times hurt the team in spite of how good he was. But unless he is much much better I have hard time believing next years team will be significantly better. And as KJ struggled down the stretch, WIll Riley played really great down the stretch.
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