Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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NarrowJ
ChiefGritty said:
And yet with a new coach who can say "all the things you didn't like are different now, with all the things you liked still being here".

BU had better be at his MacGuyvering best right now. Can't let this be a RayJ "too late to pivot" situation.

They thought they had more control over this than they did, which colored our earlier pursuits and isn't great, but all that matters is the end result.
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On one hand, the RayJ debacle ended in an Elite 8 run. On the other hand, you’re not wrong as options will continue to dry up (ex: Baker-Mozara just committed to USC).
 
#55      
FightinIllini30
ChiefGritty said:
And yet with a new coach who can say "all the things you didn't like are different now, with all the things you liked still being here".

BU had better be at his MacGuyvering best right now. Can't let this be a RayJ "too late to pivot" situation.

They thought they had more control over this than they did, which colored our earlier pursuits and isn't great, but all that matters is the end result.
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Luckily for us, RayJ made his decision on June 1st and it is April 28th so I’m not worried about it being too late to pivot. FWIW, I’d be more confident if we got boogie and one more role player than if we just got Stoj…
 
#56      
Bbuck21
ChiefGritty said:
Transferring after both college seasons, which is of course extremely disruptive to a student's academic career, pretty clearly belies that.

What Andrej has dedicated his young life to and had as his focus from a young age is being an NBA star like his dad was.

And let's be frank here. All three of Stanford-Cal-Illinois, Stanford-Cal-UNC, or Stanford-Cal-Stanford are pretty strange pathways that don't have a ton of internal logic to them.


1. Much smaller school so a much smaller alumni base in sheer numbers. 2. Sports doesn't have the huge presence in campus life there that it does at most other major schools 3. The wealthy alums are disproportionately in fields that tend to care less about sports. 4. The (remember, small) alumni base is heavily dispersed nationally and globally more than other schools, there's not a large community of Stanford alums really anywhere.

There are any number of Stanford alums (or just Palo Alto residents) who are rich enough to single-handedly make them a power player, but until that day, it's not really the shape of a situation well suited to NIL dominance unlike a Miami (larger alumni base concentrated in and around the levers of power of one very rich city that loves the teams), or a Michigan (gigantic and still very rich alumni base more centered around gladhand-y professions whose fondly remembered college experience was wall to wall Go Blue propaganda)
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Hey Chief, I love your knowledge and insight. But, just to be sure we are on the same page, I'm just messin' around :) (y)
 
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ChiefGritty
NarrowJ said:
On one hand, the RayJ debacle ended in an Elite 8 run.
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We've been around and around on this a million times, but it is a matter of fact that major resources were dedicated to RayJ in order to make him a core, primary part of the next year's team, and then when that pursuit failed, there was no alternative option, that was just an empty chair on the roster.

That would be bad here. I'm not inclined to take our "Marcus Domask as All-B1G PG" winnings and bet them all on "Jake Davis as All-B1G volume scoring wing" and I know no one else here is either.
 
#59      
Grandpa
How do we answer this? You should have set up a poll.

I myself agree to not rage tweet whoever, but aside from an anonymous poll you won't get true results.

\S
 
#60      
NarrowJ
ChiefGritty said:
We've been around and around on this a million times, but it is a matter of fact that major resources were dedicated to RayJ in order to make him a core, primary part of the next year's team, and then when that pursuit failed, there was no alternative option, that was just an empty chair on the roster.

That would be bad here. I'm not inclined to take our "Marcus Domask as All-B1G PG" winnings and bet them all on "Jake Davis as All-B1G volume scoring wing" and I know no one else here is either.
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Absolutely nobody is doing that (I hope) and also hope nobody is counting on a 2nd lightning-in-a-bottle replacement like MD was.

Though I am also confident there is far more opportunity for a plan B here given that we are doing this 5 weeks earlier than we were with waiting on RayJ last offseason.
 
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Emerson Bigguns
ChiefGritty said:
We've been around and around on this a million times, but it is a matter of fact that major resources were dedicated to RayJ in order to make him a core, primary part of the next year's team, and then when that pursuit failed, there was no alternative option, that was just an empty chair on the roster.

That would be bad here. I'm not inclined to take our "Marcus Domask as All-B1G PG" winnings and bet them all on "Jake Davis as All-B1G volume scoring wing" and I know no one else here is either.
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I don't think our options at the 3 are limited to A.S. or Jake Davis. Our Watkins offer probably gets a lot more enticing if we miss on AS. Fland and Claude are still out there too.
You also never know who Geoff has been slow playing in the ABA...
 
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risingfalcon98
LvilleILL1 said:
UNC is is out of this recruitment imo.

Stanford has made a big push, but don't think it'll be enough....

Expecting Illinois to be the choice publicly in the next 24 hours or so.
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Excited Season 2 GIF by The Lonely Island
 
#65      
ChiefGritty
NarrowJ said:
Absolutely nobody is doing that (I hope) and also hope nobody is counting on a 2nd lightning-in-a-bottle replacement like MD was.

Though I am also confident there is far more opportunity for a plan B here given that we are doing this 5 weeks earlier than we were with waiting on RayJ last offseason.
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I'm the biggest believer in BU's ability to acquire talent. I'm also very high on our returnees who I think are being underappreciated.

That said, I truly do not understand how Petrovic is going to be eligible (and I don't think the staff ought to trust even the most direct guidance from the NCAA on that point), and if there's no Stojakovic, we're in a pretty vulnerable position here.

We've got a staff adept at pulling rabbits out of their hat, which is great and they deserve confidence in their ability to do so. But it's rabbit time, right now.
 
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altgeld88
Emerson Bigguns said:
I don't think our options at the 3 are limited to A.S. or Jake Davis. Our Watkins offer probably gets a lot more enticing if we miss on AS. Fland and Claude are still out there too.
You also never know who Geoff has been slow playing in the ABA...
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I'll settle for any one of David Thompson, Julius Irving, Charlie Scott, or George Gervin if Geoff can time travel and snag them in their 1975 form.
 
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reckejo
Committing in a few hours folks, get ready. It’s happening. Us or Stanford
 
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