Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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PepeSilvia
Illini2010-11 said:
You must believe the DIA runs a very large budget surplus. The below article is very outdated (2015), but it shows that only around 1/3 of the 300+ student athletes were on full scholarship at the time (not sure how the numbers look today). In short, the DIA would have serious financial issues if it provided each athlete a full scholarship.

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Athletic scholarships at Illinois by the numbers - The Daily Illini

With football players garnering the largest chunk of Illinois’ athletic scholarship dollars, it creates a financial balancing act for the rest of the sports.
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What does it actually cost though?

300+ student athletes at a school of 40k is absolutely nothing. Tuition + room and board from them is a drop in the bucket for the University.

You're giving them half of a dorm room and a meal plan. Everything else already exists so it's not going to cost the University anything to have a student athletes attending classes since that class exists either way.
 
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mysterio2525
FightinIllini30 said:
Which we do not want! We want will to succeed because we care about his career! Go W-ILL
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HailtotheChief
FightinIllini30 said:
Which we do not want! We want will to succeed because we care about his career! Go W-ILL
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Well, if he is not selected before 25ish or even if he is and he comes back, makes $3 mil or more and is a lottery pick next season wouldn't that be successful? With the market of NIL now its idiotic to think Ayo or Kofi wouldn't have been better off by staying. Actually, Ayo wouldve come back with NIL line it is gad he saw himself falling and it did turn out but both would've stayed imo for 3 million bucks again. Illini fans almost always think guys are first rounders or one n dones and most are not.
 
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PizzaHutParkingLot
The Galloping Ghost said:
I like the idea of scouting and recruiting a developmental guy or two each year. If you like their skillset, create a smart plan for how they'll progress, and if they're willing to buy into the process, it's worth the low-cost lottery ticket. And from a fan perspective, you better believe if a guy like Fagbemi or Jason Jakstys comes good, I'll be so excited to cheer them on and buy their NIL gear. College athletics doesn't have to be all mercenaries. There's utility in development and retention.
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One of these developmental guys has to hit, like Kaminsky or Happ, right?
 
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Tevo
Altuve27 said:
As you all know by now, I was passed over for Pope. Please respect my privacy during this difficult time.
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Good to see the Vatican recruiting from Chicago again. Lots of ecclesiastical talent they've been missing out on. Also good to see some talent flowing from the US back to the European leagues.
 
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hoopsfan47
NarrowJ said:
That's what I questioned about it costing the university 'several hundred thousand dollars' as someone else asserted earlier. Does it really cost that? They get a scholarship, not room & board and meals and so on and so forth. What I just looked up says it costs the university around $14-18k per year to give an athletic scholarship, which is hardly anywhere close to 'several hundred thousand dollars'.
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Not close to being true. Tuition at UIUC annually is far more than 14-18k and is likely more than that at 97% of Div.1 schools. Tuition alone for out of state students, which most of the hoops players are indeed, is 37,000. Add in room and board and you are over 50,000 or 200,000 per year. Good private schools, such as Ivy, Stanford, Notre Dame, Rice, etc. are about $10,000 more per year. There are some colleges where a student can expect costs to exceed $100,000 annually.
 
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Orange Roughy
NarrowJ said:
What I just looked up says it costs the university around $14-18k per year to give an athletic scholarship, which is hardly anywhere close to 'several hundred thousand dollars'.
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How can this be? I know it cost a student more than $18K per year to attend UI.
 
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PepeSilvia
Orange Roughy said:
How can this be? I know it cost a student more than $18K per year to attend UI.
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In state tuition and fees for a non engineering major is only 18k per year which is honestly a bargain for what higher education costs now(though still very expensive).
 
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zoiks
He was clearly a Cardinal for quite some time.
 
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Orange Roughy
Rebounding Dog said:
18k per semester is low. That would be tuition only. 30-35k per semester is about the right number. I know this !!!! cause I wrote the flipping checks😏
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Seems more correct to me.

And you are saying $30K per SEMESTER. The other people are saying $18K per YEAR...which can't be accurate.
 
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grue2
PepeSilvia said:
What does it actually cost though?

300+ student athletes at a school of 40k is absolutely nothing. Tuition + room and board from them is a drop in the bucket for the University.

You're giving them half of a dorm room and a meal plan. Everything else already exists so it's not going to cost the University anything to have a student athletes attending classes since that class exists either way.
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This assumes there would be an empty seat in the class. If that was always true, they would not need to let athletes schedule their classes first. In the other direction, as someone who has taught, each additional student adds to the work load. Add a student, and lose work from me elsewhere. At some universities, e.g Berkeley, seats are so scarce that students are taking 5 years to graduate just because they can't get seats in the mandatory classes they need.
 
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PepeSilvia
Rebounding Dog said:
18k per semester is low. That would be tuition only. 30-35k per semester is about the right number. I know this !!!! cause I wrote the flipping checks😏
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Illinois does not cost 60-70k per year unless maybe you're an international student.

I paid 72k total in tuition and fees for 4 years and graduated within the last decade(tuition hasn't really risen that much if you look at it). It was like another 11 for room and board as a freshman and then 15ish total for rent the final 3 years(no clue about what I spent on food and booze because I paid for that by bartending).

So probably all in for roughly 100k total over 4 years or 25k per year(freshman year was by the far the most expensive with living in a dorm). My graduating class was the first one not to see a team make the tournament in 4 years if you want a clue on the timeframe.
 
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