Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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UConn’s very best players were all recruited out of HS. Newton’s the only transfer that even made a difference there.

Look at 2022-23 roster top scorer:
Sanogo- 16.7 PPG (JR…HS recruit)
Hawkins- 16.2 PPG (SO…HS recruit)
Newton- 10.1 PPG (SR…transfer)
Karaban- 9.3 PPG (FR)
Klingan- 6.9 PPG (FR)
Jackson- 6.7 PPG (FR)

5/6 are NBA players. 4/5 were HS recruits.

2023-24. They did use Newton/Spencsr quite a bit. However, the best players on the team were Castle/Klingan- two HS recruits. And 6 of their top 9 were still recruited out of HS.
1) Newton is not the only transfer that made a difference. Cam Spencer was the second leading scorer and starting point guard of a national championship winning team. He also shot 44% from 3 point range on 5.6 attempts a game.

2) saying 5/6 are NBA players is disingenuous. Sanogo played 13 games across 2 seasons and got cut. Newton is on a 2 way contract and Karaban is still in college. That’s 3/6.

3) they didn’t “use Newton/Spencer quite a bit”. Those two were the two leading scorers on the team. If you want to say Clingan and Castle are/were more talented, so be it. I’m not going to get into a word choice argument.
 
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With NIL and Big 10 Rev Share, the playing field has been significantly leveled to where prestige isn’t the main factor in guys choosing which college to go for. It’s $$$$.

A couple comments in this thread said relying on veteran transfers and Euro pros is the only way to win. It’s not. You can still go get the best HS players and get it done like Duke does. Or develop program guys like Purdue that have tons of continuity. Or both that UConn does.
Sorry but "in this day and age you cannot win at the highest level without dipping into what is considered non traditional recruiting." does not mean what you're claiming.

I doubt anyone here believes it's the only way to win, folks just don't agree that the opposite is true.
 
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With NIL and Big 10 Rev Share, the playing field has been significantly leveled to where prestige isn’t the main factor in guys choosing which college to go for. It’s $$$$.

A couple comments in this thread said relying on veteran transfers and Euro pros is the only way to win. It’s not.

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That's a nice straw man you have there...

(nobody said that)

You can still go get the best HS players and get it done like Duke does.

The first part of your original complaint was roster churn and Duke is one of the worst programs in the entire nation in this regard.

Or develop program guys like Purdue that have tons of continuity.

Just wait until they lose the big 3 after this season... and whoever else might portal (they certainly haven't been immune nor inactive in the portal). They have lucked out that Smith, TKR and Loyer just aren't really NBA material but are great college players.

Or both that UConn does.

The second part of your original complaint was foreign players, which UConn has more of them than we do. And they use the portal too.
 
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With NIL and Big 10 Rev Share, the playing field has been significantly leveled to where prestige isn’t the main factor in guys choosing which college to go for. It’s $$$$.

A couple comments in this thread said relying on veteran transfers and Euro pros is the only way to win. It’s not. You can still go get the best HS players and get it done like Duke does. Or develop program guys like Purdue that have tons of continuity. Or both that UConn does.
It's bothering me how wildly incorrect this last statement is.

Duke had Maluach, Sarr this year, tons of transfers with James, Gillis and others.

Purdue had Lance Jones and is bringing in a dude from Israel next year. Their best player in program history was foreign.

UConn is bringing in a dude from Australia we also recruited and Malachi Smith. They have had tons of foreign talent and transfers.
 
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Man Indy tried to save us with interesting news.... but the deep need to argue semantics is too strong....
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Indy cryptically indicating that O is trying to close on a dude we've talked about quite a bit on here is great.

Discussing recruiting strategy on a recruiting message board. Also great.

Whining about other people's posts? Not so much.

It was 2 gifs, would you like us to analyze them?
 
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Man Indy tried to save us with interesting news.... but the deep need to argue semantics is too strong....
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I'd argue it's more being wrong, not just semantics, but I do envy people who can see someone say or write something completely wrong, correctly realize that "it's better for everyone that I keep my mouth shut" and actually follow through on that. A very useful skill that I never was able to get the hang of.
 
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With NIL and Big 10 Rev Share, the playing field has been significantly leveled to where prestige isn’t the main factor in guys choosing which college to go for. It’s $$$$.

A couple comments in this thread said relying on veteran transfers and Euro pros is the only way to win. It’s not. You can still go get the best HS players and get it done like Duke does. Or develop program guys like Purdue that have tons of continuity. Or both that UConn does.
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sorry kiddoe , you're not the one......................
 
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Indy cryptically indicating that O is trying to close on a dude we've talked about quite a bit on here is great.

Discussing recruiting strategy on a recruiting message board. Also great.

Whining about other people's posts? Not so much.

It was 2 gifs, would you like us to analyze them?
Woah woah we're all Illini fans here, was just messing around to lighten the mood boss!
 
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