What the hell are you talking about you don’t know thatIllinois has a lot of cache with their agent but personally I would be done recruiting European players because you won't win a National Championship with them.
What the hell are you talking about you don’t know thatIllinois has a lot of cache with their agent but personally I would be done recruiting European players because you won't win a National Championship with them.
He aint going to a mid major! Lol., he wants pd too.I would like him back as well but I get the feeling the stern looking dude that shares his name is calling the shots. He wants Drej to be “the guy” night in night out. Plenty of mid-teams will let him be that.
Just don’t see him staying. Only way Drej stays is if he REALLY wants to be here bc it will be for a smaller paycheck and likely a similar role.
That is ridiculous. You do realize the best player in the world is from over there and a first round draft pick from last years team.Illinois has a lot of cache with their agent but personally I would be done recruiting European players because you won't win a National Championship with them.
He aint going to a mid major! Lol., he wants pd too.
You can tell you guys are young and don't do your research. Gonzaga, Arizona and St.Marys are the 3 prominent colleges that has always had foreign players up to this point. Someone please tell me how many championships do those 3 teams have? NADA, NOTHING, ZERO!! Hell, Michigan had foreign players under Bielein and they never won a National Championship. Unless a team wins this year then case closed on foreign players. I SAID WHAT I SAID!!That is ridiculous. You do realize the best player in the world is from over there and a first round draft pick from last years team.
it is a resume builder....Isn't the #1 offense in the country an identity?
Wagler 2.0Quentin Coleman with an absolute monster stat line in the Missouri Class 3 championship game. 50 pts and 8 rebounds on 18/21 from the field.
Right because European players suck and never amount to anything. It’s why the NBA and other elite programs don’t take Europeans.Illinois has a lot of cache with their agent but personally I would be done recruiting European players because you won't win a National Championship with them.
It appears BatteredWifeSchwartz said mid-team, not mid-major. Probably referring to a HM that’s more middle of the pack that’ll allow him to be ball dominant like he was at Cal and Stanford. I agree with both of your sentiments.He aint going to a mid major! Lol., he wants pd too.
It’s not all about who has the most resources. I think Illinois has plenty of resources, but I guess this is evolving situation. I remember last summer, it was said he’d have X amount the give player A, Player B, and Player C. It was said without two NBA guys in the roster we had a lot of money to spend and especially when we didn’t get Sarr.I agree on the turnover, i'd like a little less. Mirk, Jake, Ty, Lee, and Z are all guys id like back. Also agree on older players - which Ty, Z, and Jake would be. I also like the idea of bringing a "illinois guy" back as a senior every year, someone who this opportunity and spot means the world too instead of an international handshake deal. Tons of guys from Illinois go tear it up at mid-majors and lower levels, someone like Harmon every year is amazing.
Only thing id push back on, in the bolded atleast. Is @Second place is 1st loser right? Underwood looks to be a top 15 paid coach, and we are what? a Top 15-20 NIL program? To me, the "resources we have" are much like what you're saying with underwood and regular season wins - it's good, but are resources "great"?
Take the Haggerty example. Indy brought him up as us having interest and indicated he would come here and not necessarily be the guy. Candidly, I've just been around the block enough too many times here to know that won't be the case - if we get Haggerty and Mirk (also been around the block enough to know im not just locking in Mirk to come back), bring back those role guys, and pull in Morillo - That's gonna be our budget. We're not gonna have enough to go get someone else, and I do think the schools with "great" resources right now, have that ability.
It’s not all about who has the most resources. I think Illinois has plenty of resources, but I guess this is evolving situation. I remember last summer, it was said he’d have X amount the give player A, Player B, and Player C. It was said without two NBA guys in the roster we had a lot of money to spend and especially when we didn’t get Sarr.
We spent money on a guy on to sit in the bench, on the Twins who most now want to leave, and a ton of it on a guy we draw no offensive plays for and now the consensus we don’t want back and who is leaving anyway.
Also, when NIL first started there were brags about Illinois alum and donors who could write big checks w/o it having to be under the table as before which Illinois wouldn’t do. I guess that’s not the case any longer.
Trust me, Illinois has more NIL money than Houston has and not even half the success in the past 9 years or even since NIL and revenue sharing.
No, QC is definitely known and highly-recruited. I'm probably the only one who knows this since no one has mentioned it, especially game commentators, but Wagler was barely recruited and only had two high major offers... /sWagler 2.0
Are you positive Illinois has more money on the roster spent than houston? Chris Cenac was the 7th rated player in America, Harwell was the 16th rated player in America, and Flemings the 20th rated player in America - 3 kids in the top 20 these days aint cheap. And I promise you, Jojo Tugler and Emanuel Sharp got massive paydays. If houston's roster is not more than ours, i bet it is extremely close.
As for the bolded. Petrovic - sure, 100%. Miss. Everyone else, at times, has greatly contributed to us winning.
It's not even close. Duke is in a different world than us talent-wise.Even with Wagler being arguably the biggest recruiting "hit" in modern history, i STILL think duke has more around sarr offenseivly than Illinois would have. Because it would be either Sarr or Andrej, and as much as everyone dislikes Andrej at the moment hes been far more productive and efficient scorer than Sarr this year. Elite resource programs could have gotten both.
And if we went into the season banking on Keaton being a 2nd team all american, you're 1000% right, i think different choices would have been made. But come on. Thats just not remotely realistic
No, I’m in no way positive, but I agree they probably are in the same range. However, the school and athletic dept don’t have as much money as Illinois.Are you positive Illinois has more money on the roster spent than houston? Chris Cenac was the 7th rated player in America, Harwell was the 16th rated player in America, and Flemings the 20th rated player in America - 3 kids in the top 20 these days aint cheap. And I promise you, Jojo Tugler and Emanuel Sharp got massive paydays. If houston's roster is not more than ours, i bet it is extremely close.
As for the bolded. Petrovic - sure, 100%. Miss. Everyone else, at times, has greatly contributed to us winning.
As long as we get a few guys that have that dawg in them!Our budget will be larger than it was for this past season.
Left for MichiganAnd what’s the identity of this program? What do we hang our hat on? We used to have tough MFers. Trent, DMFW, Feliz, Ayo, TSJ… Where are the DOGS at???
When you spend multiple millions of NIL on a player, occasionally contributing to winning isn't enough. Andrej at this point has to be considered a miss.Are you positive Illinois has more money on the roster spent than houston? Chris Cenac was the 7th rated player in America, Harwell was the 16th rated player in America, and Flemings the 20th rated player in America - 3 kids in the top 20 these days aint cheap. And I promise you, Jojo Tugler and Emanuel Sharp got massive paydays. If houston's roster is not more than ours, i bet it is extremely close.
As for the bolded. Petrovic - sure, 100%. Miss. Everyone else, at times, has greatly contributed to us winning.
Would Brad win one without them? Love Brad really good coach but just never see title game/final four for him. Be contender for B1G, 1st or 2nd weekend and always in tournament but dont see N.C in that future.Illinois has a lot of cache with their agent but personally I would be done recruiting European players because you won't win a National Championship with them.