Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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I cannot imagine the chaos that would happen if they granted the fifth year starting immediately. There would be so many awkward and very hard conversations when a fifth year senior comes walking into the locker room with his gym bag and the coaches have to explain, Unmm we kinda moved on and four years was enough of you. I could see some seriously ugly break ups lol.
 
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I cannot imagine the chaos that would happen if they granted the fifth year starting immediately. There would be so many awkward and very hard conversations when a fifth year senior comes walking into the locker room with his gym bag and the coaches have to explain, Unmm we kinda moved on and four years was enough of you. I could see some seriously ugly break ups lol.
I’d also worry about the awkward conversation with a freshman or transfer player with the assumption they are either dropped now, or riding pine when they thought they’d have a bigger role
 
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Not the way I read it - the 5 in 5 rule would start their freshman year or their 19th birthday whichever is first - then they have 5 years to play - Mirk would have 4 more years I think. Petro would only have one more year potentially, for example - they want to avoid the 23 year olds coming over from Europe being deemed freshman/soph's - that doesn't apply to Mirk, KJ, Ivisic's
Hope so. The way the statement in the tweet was worded confused matters a bit.
 
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All I know is if they pass 5/5, the chaos we’re going to see will make NIL/transfer portals of yesterday look like nothing.

Grad transfers aren’t required to enter the portal right? That means most seniors could move freely whenever after it passes. And it’ll be after most teams have exhausted a vast majority of their budget.

All in all, I want Boswell back. But (as others have pointed out) other teams are going to benefit from this more than us.
 
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I’m not a doomer— I think we’re going to be in the conversation with Florida and Duke in the championship contention next year…

But… do we want Boswell back? Retention is awesome, he can be really really good, but he also killed us sometimes by taking terrible shots and shooting really poorly. Never played to his strengths and his defense was WAY overhyped. If we get him back I will cheer. If not, I think that is just fine.

When he did that silly reach in during the final four when we finally had some momentum and were getting stops, I almost threw up. And he did crap like that All. The. Time.
 
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If 5-in-5 is immediate, are we looking at the most elite and highly competitive top 10 teams next year?

As mentioned above, Arizona and Iowa St go back to form. Michigan gets back their depth, and might try retaining Rez and Mara to stay high for next year. But also, … Purdue and MSU resolve their limitations, UCONN gets back Reed, Nebraska retains a few strong players, and we get back Boswell. Then Duke and Florida stay high as well as they were slated to already.

This could mean just an insane amount of talent! But also could mean a slightly lighter draft year in return maybe? So some declare?
 
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With the extra Covid years they just suspended the roster limits.

They'd be loathe to do that again I suspect, but who knows.

If this has positive momentum within the Big Ten (what I would suspect any insider chatter would derive from) that's interesting, but this is far from a done deal.

It's Congress that could really resolve this once and for all, but by all accounts they don't want to touch the issue.
They can barely pass a budget and we expect them to fix this?
 
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I'm not sure that I am a huge fan of 5-in-5 happening this year

Purdue brings back the big 3
Wilkerson back at Indiana
Burnett, Gayle and Tschetter all back for Michigan
Kohler and Cooper back for Michigan State
Mast, Lawrence and Hoiberg all back for Nebraska
Martinelli back for Northwestern
Thornton, Noel, Johnson, Tilly all could return for Ohio State
Bittle back for Oregon
Bilodeau and Dent back for UCLA
CBM, Dickerson, Ausar and like 3 other guys could come back for USC
Claude, Peterson, Ognacevic, Kepnang could return for Washington
Boyd, Carrington and Rohde back for Wisconsin

I know all of them wouldn't return for another year, but they could...
Several guys on here have been in college for at least five years and would not be able to come back.
 
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From a practical perspective, the NCAA proposed rule should be:

1. A Player has a 5 consecutive year window to play only 4 years
2. the rule above only applies to players under 25 years of age. If 25 or older, you're automatically ineligible for playing at the college level
3. The rule is prospective only and applies only to new college players
 
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I’m not a doomer— I think we’re going to be in the conversation with Florida and Duke in the championship contention next year…

But… do we want Boswell back? Retention is awesome, he can be really really good, but he also killed us sometimes by taking terrible shots and shooting really poorly. Never played to his strengths and his defense was WAY overhyped. If we get him back I will cheer. If not, I think that is just fine.

When he did that silly reach in during the final four when we finally had some momentum and were getting stops, I almost threw up. And he did crap like that All. The. Time.
uuuuuuh. yes? we do want the guy who came back to CU from a FF level school, who is a good defender, versatile, and sacrificed playing time and usage to make room for others on his team (including an unexpectedly transcendent freshman talent) to succeed and thrive. final answer.
 
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Several guys on here have been in college for at least five years and would not be able to come back.

So they won't retrofit missed years due to injury for players who began eligibility prior to the rule? Even if so, I can see that being easily challenged.
 
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uuuuuuh. yes? we do want the guy who came back to CU from a FF level school, who is a good defender, versatile, and sacrificed playing time and usage to make room for others on his team (including an unexpectedly transcendent freshman talent) to succeed and thrive. final answer.
We aren't going to say no. However based on the guys other teams get back this would make us a worse team in comparison.
 
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Curious, is MSU getting love for their incoming freshman class?
They also return their core outside of their bigs. They should be really good. We made the Final Four, but Michigan State was the same seed and should be talked about in the same way
 
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It would be pandemonium, and it would also make every other top team better.

Would be great to bring Boswell and Humrichous back though.

And it *could* be a good thing for college basketball, if, *IF* it is packaged with the transfer restrictions that have been proposed alongside it. If it's just more candy for breakfast in terms of player freedom then it will make the situation worse.
Hum has had his 5 years
 
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So they won't retrofit missed years due to injury for players who began eligibility prior to the rule? Even if so, I can see that being easily challenged.
How they'd handle injuries is one of the big complications.

In theory, it reflects a revised understanding of what the "benefit" is. Before it was the opportunity to play, which you lose when you're hurt, but now it's the opportunity to earn money, which you don't (for the most part).

The big picture idea here is the carrot of a 5th year for everybody in exchange for the stick of reimposing order to the transfer market. Do the stakeholders have both the will and the legal clearance for the stick part? I'm skeptical!
 
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My guess is Rodgers is coming back and not transferring......actually that's just me hoping
I’m thinking there’s a good chance he comes back. I just don’t know what the market is going to be. I get the impression that Brad loves him and while he may not give Ty the starter on E8 team type money he’s gotten before, my guess is Brad would still take care of him. I can’t imagine there’s a P4 team that would guarantee him a bigger role or more $$ than we would have given he hasn’t played in 2 years. Maybe he finds a bigger role at the mid major level, but I don’t know if mid major starter $$ would be any better than 10th guy on BIG/F4 contender $$.

I don’t know that dropping down a level really improves his pro prospects much, even if he starts. If I were Ty I would come back, take advantage of Fletch and our first rate training facilities, enjoy the ride and then after the season shoot my shot at a pro career (again, I think he’s just as likely to get a pro tryout coming out of ILL than as a starter on a MAC team), and then maybe take a GA position/transition to coaching if I didn’t like my pro prospects.

That’s what I would do and what I think makes the most sense career wise but I would also get the itch for wanting to play after sitting for 2 years. Hope he does what makes the most sense for him.
 
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This board is pretty funny because there are 2 maybe 3 real insiders and the rest are simply posing to be insiders with baseless knowledge… But yet everyone treats all of their posts like gospel lol
 
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