Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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#376      
I'd be happy if Tomi could get back to his 1st year level (obviously being 100% healthy would help).
If Tomi is healthy you will see a player far more impactive than ever before IMHO....for a variety of reasons. There is no reason for him to not see significant improvement in shooting, defense, inside offense, and rebounding...maybe even more quickness and athleticism. All he needs to do is put in the work and care....and I can't imagine that he won't as this period in his life will only come around once.
 
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#378      
I feel like Morillo is a bigger downgrade from Ben than Vaaks is from Wagler.
It's not really so much about who's the better player, it's that Vaaks has a lot of similarities with Wagler and will bring a lot of the same traits and maintain continuity with how we played last year, whereas Morillo is nothing like Ben at all.

If we're asking Morillo to impersonate Ben Humrichous then yeah, he's going to be a downgrade on the real thing. But then if we have Morillo be himself, how does that impact other players and the overall way in which we play?

Ben was constantly able to guard opposing true bigs and then get cross-matched at the other end against guys who he would just shoot straight over as if they weren't there. Morillo can't do that, he's going to have to use his skills to impact the game in a different way.
 
#380      
He’ll never shoot like pops but can improve his shot selection, which should translate to a respectable percentage. Same can be said for Z.
In fairness to Drej, he knows his 3 pointer isn’t all that great. He only really took open shots from the corner. He needs to improve his form and the little hitch in his long ball to be improved shooting from range.
 
#381      
I'd be happy if Tomi could get 100% healthy for the full season.
FIFY....


Where exactly should Tomi return from? I hate to be pedantic here, but his usage decreased and his role changed in part because we had a substantially better/deeper front court, so I'll continue to disagree with this notion that there was some meaningful regression YOY if you look at a side by side comparison of his seasons. He was highly efficient down the stretch at doing exactly what we needed him to do.

If he stays healthy through the offseason, I would assume that would allow him to add a bit of strength, quickness and conditioning, which would make him a materially better player than he was last year and his first year.
 
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#382      
I mean, we can feel however we want, but we risk looking like the guys who thought Keaton should redshirt last May... If you were judging Keaton by his prep tape you'd say, too skinny and not an explosive enough athlete to contribute right away... There's a reason why no one else was after this kid...

None of us really know at this point... Until they start competing against college guys, it's hard to say how well their games will translate.

I'd bet my Arizona Beach House Morillo will be a better player than Ben by the time he leaves. (...and Ben was a VG player this year, brought a lot to the table and didn't take anything off it.)

Morillo is going to need to play to get there.

Our starters will be as good as anyone's, and I wouldn't be surprised if 4 of them are around 30 minutes a game. (Jake and Z will be, presumably, the first guys off the bench) The young guys (other than Coleman, he's too talented not to play a lot) are going to have to get really good really fast to get more than 7-8 minutes a game.

They don't need to be stars...we have plenty of star power...just come in and do their job. Between Morillo, Brown, Zens, and L. Davis, someone is likely to surprise us. I also assume there will be more competition in the mix before actual practices start...
Exactly, thank you Emerson! Not only did we have no idea what we had in Wagler, we had no idea what we had in Petro. They were both 180 from what we thought we had, yet tons of people already know what these freshmen are going to do. Ridiculous!

However don't bet your Arizona beach house on what anyone will be before they leave. He may leave after the season, or possibly even before. Make it by the time he graduates from whatever school he is attending, or goes to the NBA early. Just to be safe.
 
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A possible Ben replacement in Europe Nikola Kusturica who plays for the same team as Kasparas Jackucionis did FC Barcelona
 
#386      
FIFY....


Where exactly should Tomi return from?
Similar minutes
- His rebounding decreased from 8 rbg to 6 rbg
- His 3 pt % dropped from 36% to 31%
- He looked slow on defense - did not jump to contest shots

He started pounding it in the lane late in the season. Going inside out with Tomas on some possessions stops the opponent from going small ball on us.

I think our returnees could take a big jump from working all summer

Tomas - give inside threat. Get stronger quicker to play better post defense and rebound better
Big Z - less 3 pointers. Learn baby hook from Tomas so you can post smaller defenders occasionally. Get stronger so you can hold onto rebounds.
Andrej - tighten handle, learn to pass of double team to open man, get stronger to become better rebounder, cut to hoop without ball. Go to the hoop anytime you get the ball in fast break
David - improve jumping ability, work on agility
Jake - get stronger
 
#389      
I think some folks on this board have already forgotten how good Wagler was. There is zero doubt that Vaaks will be a downgrade, probably a large one.

That doesn't mean the team will be bad by any means.
Maybe a downgrade in rebounding and defense but not in scoring. Team will look different with Z backing up Tomi and Mirk and guards will have a different rotation with combinations of Dre, Jake, QC, Vaaks and Morillo. Not sure it will be inferior but will be different.
 
#390      
He shot at bad percentage, but I really don't recall Andrej taking bad shots to the point it's an issue.

Z's were completely wide open for the latter part of the year... and he shot 38% literally a season ago. His shot just broke.

Bad shooting percentage doesn't ALWAYS translate to bad shot selection.
That’s all valid, but we still want them taking threes (Especially Z). Shot selection should be a focus for those guys. Volume plays into that. It’s worth digging into the analytics to see where they were most effective and, if need be, adjusting their volume. I’d rather see Z take 1–2 threes per game from spots where he was efficient last season instead of 2-3. The same applies to Andrej, I don't think it's in anyone's best interest for him to be taking 2+ a game.
 
#391      
A possible Ben replacement in Europe Nikola Kusturica who plays for the same team as Kasparas Jackucionis did FC Barcelona
Will just be 17 in a few days. Would he be college eligible?
 
#392      
I mean, we can feel however we want, but we risk looking like the guys who thought Keaton should redshirt last May... If you were judging Keaton by his prep tape you'd say, too skinny and not an explosive enough athlete to contribute right away... There's a reason why no one else was after this kid...

None of us really know at this point... Until they start competing against college guys, it's hard to say how well their games will translate.

I'd bet my Arizona Beach House Morillo will be a better player than Ben by the time he leaves. (...and Ben was a VG player this year, brought a lot to the table and didn't take anything off it.)

Morillo is going to need to play to get there.

Our starters will be as good as anyone's, and I wouldn't be surprised if 4 of them are around 30 minutes a game. (Jake and Z will be, presumably, the first guys off the bench) The young guys (other than Coleman, he's too talented not to play a lot) are going to have to get really good really fast to get more than 7-8 minutes a game.

They don't need to be stars...we have plenty of star power...just come in and do their job. Between Morillo, Brown, Zens, and L. Davis, someone is likely to surprise us. I also assume there will be more competition in the mix before actual practices start...
Morrillo will NOT be a surprise. I have watched him play extensively and this kid is ready to plug in. I view him as Vaak's backup and he could potentially back up both guard positions and maybe the 3. He's got handles and passes really well.
 
#393      
Question for insiders, we all know that Andrej is going to get feedback on his jump shot and that it needs to improve. Does that mean he is going to come back and just jack 3's next year? That would be the worst-case scenario, in my opinion.
 
#394      
That’s all valid, but we still want them taking threes (Especially Z). Shot selection should be a focus for those guys. Volume plays into that. It’s worth digging into the analytics to see where they were most effective and, if need be, adjusting their volume. I’d rather see Z take 1–2 threes per game from spots where he was efficient last season instead of 2-3. The same applies to Andrej, I don't think it's in anyone's best interest for him to be taking 2+ a game.
Not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, but it might be a start:

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#397      
That’s all valid, but we still want them taking threes (Especially Z). Shot selection should be a focus for those guys. Volume plays into that. It’s worth digging into the analytics to see where they were most effective and, if need be, adjusting their volume. I’d rather see Z take 1–2 threes per game from spots where he was efficient last season instead of 2-3. The same applies to Andrej, I don't think it's in anyone's best interest for him to be taking 2+ a game.
You don't see a <30% 3p shooting wing in the NBA. There are some wildly athletic defender/rebounder type exceptions, hopefully the next few weeks help him understand that and we see tournament Andrej for an entire season.
 
#399      

This seems like a good fit for Cal and AR. I dont know how the culture of that team will be with a ton of highly rated 18-20 year olds and only 1 ball, but they probably have the most talented roster in the country.

I know several of our insiders said we backed off due to perceived work ethic/teammate issues, but it seems like that will fit in nicely with what they are building.
 
#400      
Could Andrej be the first player to get two “Booms” in one offseason? Or does pulling out of the draft not necessitate a boom?
 
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