They still have a ton of talent, as much as anyone other than Duke and Florida.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
can’t read it but man 4:19 mile for somebody Ben’s size is so hard to believe.Yes 247 reported a 4:19 mile:
From NAIA to the B1G, Ben Humrichous is creating buzz with Illini: 'He's going to be a great story this year'
Evansville transfer Ben Humrichous was an early commit for the Illini and and an up-close view of the roster construction.247sports.com
They have Cadeau and McKenney in the backcourt... how much of Cadeau's success was due to having the nation's best frontcourt by a wide margin + two super senior guards on both sides of him?
Thiam, Estrella and Jalen Reed is a gargantuan step down from Lendeborg, Morez & Mara.
McCoy will be good, but a freshman.
Only 2 returning players means there's an extremely low amount of continuity here (but to be fair, you were speaking to talent level and not returning production).
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
How much of Mirk's preternatural ability to pop up in the right place at the right time emerged from defenses preoccupied by the complicated headache of dealing with Wagler?
We can do this all day, that's why I tend to treat preseason polls as advisory at best. And who wants the albatross of preseason #1 hung on us anyhow? Let's go out and earn it for real.
I'm not sure how Illinois having 2 good players that force opposing defenses to make decisions would affect what Michigan's roster looks like, but maybe I'm missing your point there.
Michigan lost more production than probably any team in the entire nation (Lendeborg, Morez, Mara and 2 super senior gaurds) and hasn't done much to replace it.
skyIdub
"I can't tell you. Secret."
Lol, the world record is 3:43....so Ben is a 6'9" 230lb basketball player...not a track star....only 36 seconds off of a world record mile?
Yeah, it just didn't happen.Lol, the world record is 3:43....so Ben is a 6'9" 230lb basketball player...not a track star....only 36 seconds off of a world record mile?
Underwood must've been confused. Ben could never do that.Lol, the world record is 3:43....so Ben is a 6'9" 230lb basketball player...not a track star....only 36 seconds off of a world record mile?
RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
Didn’t he also grow to 7 feet last Summer?
To put it another way, on a standard track Ben would have been 2/3 of a lap behind the WR holder when he crossed the finish line - so nowhere close, but I also would think the basketball manager measuring a mile likely isn't exactly precise depending on where they were running itLol, the world record is 3:43....so Ben is a 6'9" 230lb basketball player...not a track star....only 36 seconds off of a world record mile?
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
I remember Trent running in the lower 4's. So, if Ben set a new team record, the 4's are not unreasonable. All players are expected to break 6 minutes, I believe. At least the guards/wings are. so, I am sure it was in the 4's, unless Brad was gaslighting us.
Girls 3A champ ran 4:41 this year. 3A boys top qualifiers around 4:13.
Still expect it wasn't 4:19, but it's not completely ridiculous
Seems like one of those sports "facts" that get distorted/exaggerated beyond all reason. I remember when ex-center Brian Carlwell supposedly averaged over 100 yards receiving per game as a WR at Proviso before joining Illinois basketball. The only problem is that he had just over 100 yards receiving over the whole season. But Sun-Times "reported" it and people ran with it.
Illinicpa14
- Chicago
As someone who ran D1 in XC, he didn’t run 4:19.
Your 4:13 is in a competitive race wearing racing spikes on a top track after a 20 week build.
If he ran a 4:19 with no specific training on th setting, he’s in the wrong sport. There are also no milers close to that weight…
Yeah, endurance and stamina dont matter and high school Zavier Zens thats 6'7" , 215 lbs is already a better athlete and better than Ben at the 4. Dudes Bens graduated and still way undervalued by a large portion of our fan base.
Last edited:
Scheyer's like the perfect example of a coach who I'd love, love, love to see get fired at a blueblood... since there's a 0.1% chance they'll be as successful with the next guy lol.
Yeah, the time for Frazier was legit but for Ben i guess Fletch and Brad fabricated it! Come on man! Brad and Fletch make !!!! up to make Ben look good! Lol..No way! If you ask Brad the record i bet he will tell you and you can call him a liar. If ut wasnt Ben and still Trent most wouldnt say !!!!. Its sad how much he was undervalued.
Last edited:
Wouldn't you think they just run this on a track?
blackdog
- Champaign
Basketball is a high intensity endurance sport. At this level they have to be able to sprint for several minutes if the game goes a long time between whistles. It doesn't seem surprising at all that a high level basketball athlete would make a damn good mile runner.
theNewGuy
- Dallas, TX
I'm 5'8" and was running 5:30 miles in high school, and I wasn't close to being the best in my school. Give me another foot in height, an elite facility to work out in 24/7, and personal trainer, I could shave a minute off easy.
Long strider with no worries about stopping or cutting. I bet he could really cover some ground when he gets in a rhythm
skyIdub
"I can't tell you. Secret."
Right, a personal trainer for….spoiler alert…running.
Not full court sprints and lateral moves.
I guess there was a treadmill in the corner though?
I mean, that "only 36 seconds" took the entire human race about 117 years to shave off from when 4:19 was the WR in 1882 to when the current WR was set in 1999.Lol, the world record is 3:43....so Ben is a 6'9" 230lb basketball player...not a track star....only 36 seconds off of a world record mile?
As stated by others, 4:19 is very good, but there are high schoolers who can run that, so it's hardly impossible.