Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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NarrowJ
wc_illini said:
Dysfunctional was probably too harsh. But the team/staff hasn't demonstrated anywhere close to the success we have.

I can see both sides of whether their accumulation of talent is relevant to our situation at all. It's definitely a high-reward opportunity since they have more starting minutes up for grabs. But they have 9 guys who think they're good enough to start, and that doesn't even include Hughes, Jones, and Bruns (all productive starters at lower levels). So 3-4 of them will get buried, and one or two others will be disappointed in their playing time.

I guess I think if that situation was enticing enough for all those guys, wouldn't it be interesting for someone comparable to the #5-10 guys on USC's roster (not actually any of their guys, but Brad's choice of someone comparable) to come fight for 5th-8th on a pre-season top-5 program with great coaching/player development/team chemistry? Apparently it wasn't, though none of us can know for sure whether we tried to get anyone like that.
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What will be funny though is when we add another quality player to the roster and #9thman was all a waste of time

Narrator: “it was a waste of time anyhow”
 
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Second place is 1st loser
Fly Illini Fly! said:
My post had legitimately nothing to do with Wagler.

Was just highlighting that it’s a rare feat to become a maxpreps AA while ranked outside the top 100.
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Apologies, it wasn't necessarily directed at you, specifically, rather the idea passed around the just because freshmen are ranked outside of the top 100.....it doesn't mean anything. You are correct, it would be more than out of the ordinary for a kid outside of the top 100 to be a Maxpreps AA.....or an AA as ranked by any service.

All of these discussions are 100000% born out of the biography and made for TV movie that Keaton will make millions on getting produced.

He's going to be the comp for every kid that walks through our door that isn't in the top 100. Infinitely more times than not, the scouts, coaches and services get things right.
 
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BretMyBeachHouse
Second place is 1st loser said:
You are correct, it would be more than out of the ordinary for a kid outside of the top 100 to be a Maxpreps AA.....or an AA as ranked by any service.

All of these discussions are 100000% born out of the biography and made for TV movie that Keaton will make millions on getting produced.
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Except its not a "would be" hypothetical. He actually made the top 15 for max preps but is outside the topp 100 for rankings. This has nothing to do with Wagler. Its an outlier and it's certainly reasonable to wonder why and who is "right".
 
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Fly Illini Fly!
BretMyBeachHouse said:
Except its not a "would be" hypothetical. He actually made the top 15 for max preps but is outside the topp 100 for rankings. This has nothing to do with Wagler. Its an outlier and it's certainly reasonable to wonder why and who is "right".
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I promise I would've made the exact comment if Keaton Wagler never happened lol.

It's just a very rare, notable attribute.

How much should it impact Zens' college projection? Should he have been ranked higher? Is he good enough to be the #9thMan?

TBD for the folks here to debate.

My only root question was HOW the two scoutings could be on such opposite ends. (considering every other player was a 5 star)
 
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