Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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That said, he’s also had the advantage of the unlimited no-sit transfer rules, expanded coaching staff including Orlando Antigua, relaxed eligibility standards for Euro pros, a world-class training facility and massive over-the-table player salaries. Good on him for leveraging all of that to his advantage; others might not have accomplished the same.
Honestly, I think Weber is really the only coach that's an interesting question of if he would have done better with NIL and the instant portal.

Groce is an obvious no, young Self would have been incredible with these rules, and I think He son and Kruger are both good with those rules.

Weber was probably clean to a fault with his recruiting and it cost him when he kept striking out on the top end talent and then would lose the guys ranked a bit lower as a result since they would commit to a Purdue or Wisconsin type team while Weber was focused on the Eric Gordon's of the world.

Weber was pretty good at the actual coaching part imo and reminds me a lot of Matt Painter. If you simply improved his recruiting with money he might have been able to sustain some success. However, he also seemed stubborn so maybe he would be like Shaka and struggle because he refused to use the portal.
 
#131      
Leron did play for BU his Jr year. Averaged 15 and 5 - easily his best year. Then he left. Not sure why.
Used to get a lot of strange guys going pro that had no chance of getting drafted before NIL.

I feel like a lot of kids surround themselves with the wrong type of people and they get blatantly incorrect advice on when to go pro(see Kofi). In Black's case he had a medical redshirt but had been in college for 4 years so it's possible he graduated and just wanted to try to play professionally(which he did do in South America), but yeah he probably would have been better off sticking around and picking up a graduate degree or certificate in a 5th year and then going pro.

Jeremy Richmond is the all time most baffling one imo. Never any shot he was getting drafted after his freshman year and he actually might have had a chance to get drafted after his sophomore year if he kept his head on straight and improved. Nearly 8 pts and 5 rebounds in 20 minutes as a freshman isn't terrible production to build off of and McCamey, Davis, and Tisdale were all out of eligibility.

He could have probably become the go to guy on a starting lineup that could have actually been pretty good running out Richardson(jr.), Paul(jr), Bertrand (so), Richmond(so), and Leonard(so).
 
#132      
Used to get a lot of strange guys going pro that had no chance of getting drafted before NIL.

I feel like a lot of kids surround themselves with the wrong type of people and they get blatantly incorrect advice on when to go pro(see Kofi). In Black's case he had a medical redshirt but had been in college for 4 years so it's possible he graduated and just wanted to try to play professionally(which he did do in South America), but yeah he probably would have been better off sticking around and picking up a graduate degree or certificate in a 5th year and then going pro.

Jeremy Richmond is the all time most baffling one imo. Never any shot he was getting drafted after his freshman year and he actually might have had a chance to get drafted after his sophomore year if he kept his head on straight and improved. Nearly 8 pts and 5 rebounds in 20 minutes as a freshman isn't terrible production to build off of and McCamey, Davis, and Tisdale were all out of eligibility.

He could have probably become the go to guy on a starting lineup that could have actually been pretty good running out Richardson(jr.), Paul(jr), Bertrand (so), Richmond(so), and Leonard(so).

Richmond went pro because he didn’t have a choice. He wasn’t welcome back for his sophomore season.
 
#133      
that one still kills me. I thought we could been something that next year. I loved Leron black's game!
Always thought Leron was one of our great what-ifs.

Used to get a lot of strange guys going pro that had no chance of getting drafted before NIL.

I feel like a lot of kids surround themselves with the wrong type of people and they get blatantly incorrect advice on when to go pro(see Kofi). In Black's case he had a medical redshirt but had been in college for 4 years so it's possible he graduated and just wanted to try to play professionally(which he did do in South America), but yeah he probably would have been better off sticking around and picking up a graduate degree or certificate in a 5th year and then going pro.

Jeremy Richmond is the all time most baffling one imo. Never any shot he was getting drafted after his freshman year and he actually might have had a chance to get drafted after his sophomore year if he kept his head on straight and improved. Nearly 8 pts and 5 rebounds in 20 minutes as a freshman isn't terrible production to build off of and McCamey, Davis, and Tisdale were all out of eligibility.

He could have probably become the go to guy on a starting lineup that could have actually been pretty good running out Richardson(jr.), Paul(jr), Bertrand (so), Richmond(so), and Leonard(so).
Richmond was a classic case of being a head case. A bad decision but not so baffling to me considering the history of the person making the decision.

Another decision I really didn't like for either party was Giorgi. I understand he was stuck behind Kofi - really unfortunate for him - but he was actually a really solid college player who didn't really have any business going pro when he did.
 
#134      
Used to get a lot of strange guys going pro that had no chance of getting drafted before NIL.

I feel like a lot of kids surround themselves with the wrong type of people and they get blatantly incorrect advice on when to go pro(see Kofi). In Black's case he had a medical redshirt but had been in college for 4 years so it's possible he graduated and just wanted to try to play professionally(which he did do in South America), but yeah he probably would have been better off sticking around and picking up a graduate degree or certificate in a 5th year and then going pro.

Jeremy Richmond is the all time most baffling one imo. Never any shot he was getting drafted after his freshman year and he actually might have had a chance to get drafted after his sophomore year if he kept his head on straight and improved. Nearly 8 pts and 5 rebounds in 20 minutes as a freshman isn't terrible production to build off of and McCamey, Davis, and Tisdale were all out of eligibility.

He could have probably become the go to guy on a starting lineup that could have actually been pretty good running out Richardson(jr.), Paul(jr), Bertrand (so), Richmond(so), and Leonard(so).
I guess Leron has gotten into coaching... He was the Player Development Coach for the Trailblazers this year. He's on Linked-in..

I had no idea... Good for him.
 
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Used to get a lot of strange guys going pro that had no chance of getting drafted before NIL.
Not that strange when you think about it tbh. He'd gotten his degree early, as many players do. Was engaged. And playing in college did not pay money. He knew he wasn't going to the NBA but figured on a pro career playing abroad, and decided to start on that road a year earlier.

In the pre-NIL context it was still rare, but made sense to some extent. Nowadays it would be an absolutely crazy thing to do.
 
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Everyone remembers ThaKid? Seem to remember he was more on the football board but his unbridled over the top optimism was something else.
Rumor has it if you hold a replica illinois football helmet up to your ear you can hear him yelling in all caps that Aaron Bailey is an All-B1G caliber QB.
 
#139      
So FN rich of that guy talking accountability.

The next time that guy looks in the mirror will be his first time.

Thanks for the laugh.
 
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Even a broken watch is right twice a day
 
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