That's just a massive fall from the prospect he was (in every way -- commitment, ranking, recruitment).
No idea what it is. He apparently would refer to O as "Uncle."
Wonder if the things that worried us away, were the same with other programs.
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No idea what it is. He apparently would refer to O as "Uncle."
Wonder if the things that worried us away, were the same with other programs.
Tre White, Will Riley, Quincy Guerrier, Marcus Domask… agree with the OP tho it’s great to get energy off the bench
Drej had a few ‘elite’ posters last year.
I'd like to see his Top 10 Retention List.
Well if it descends to into that after reaching the final four last year. This place is nutzo.
Thought of another way: Musselman is a loon. Wade is a scruple-less dirtbag. And Beard is more than likely a creep. Our guy doesn’t even have a carry on. Those 3 have enough baggage to fill an airport. It’s preposterous to suggest any of the 3 would or would have been better than Brad.
I appreciate Musselman and Beard’s tactical minds but if they can’t get out of their own way without imploding…what good is it? And, if I read tomorrow that Nate Oats threw a computer monitor out 5 story building…I wouldn’t be too surprised.
Wade isn’t even worth taking about…and that’s saying a lot because one of the other guys likely assaulted his girlfriend.
I definitely appreciate the pure coaching chops of some of these guys. Because I am College Baskeyball Fan. If that makes me a Stan…so be it.
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ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Glad you're tickled but it literally entirely is.
You’re thinking of ‘27 recruit Jaylan Mitchell. Constanza is not from Illinois.
Sorry, it's just a silly comparison based on the dudes both playing in IL and being athletic.
Iggy was a highly regarded top 70 player from his Soph year on, playing AAU with Quentin Richardson, Jimmy Butler & Jon Scheyer while winning a AAU national championship and committing to Arkansas his Jr year...then Zona once Richardson was fired. Ranking wise he went from 70ish to 25ish his Jr summer.
Otherwise they're 170 spots in the rankings, 25 years, 160 miles and multiple NBA championships apart.
I'm tickled by fans who literally think sports are about the fans.
It is. Without the fans funding the sport given the entertainment value....all of the ancillary stuff is moot. Without the fans, there's no NIL, no TV money, no jersey sales, no concessions....nada.
The players benefit from the entertainment they provide. No more, no less.
Maybe minor in Architecture.
Latex sales?
It's more than nearby. Kankakee, Bradley, and Bourbonnais are one contiguous tricity.
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But we're on a Illinois basketball forum, so 'we' is much narrower; where the current state of college affairs has contributed to the best run of success in decades for Illinois basketball.
Also, do you really think Michigan is less satisfied with their championship because it was fueled by transfers? Florida the year before?
I don't think the whole sport is better off and most importantly 'we' are better off in the current environment.
Another kid who’s just completely fallen from where he once was … Bounced around 3 different prep schools …
I’m not even sure what HMs are recruiting him anymore … He’s not a top end HM prospect in my eyes …
Hasn’t he been injured awhile.
114 in the composite.
Was #4 at one point. (one some other services as high as #2)
I know it's just one guy, but I'm surprised we didn't even get to a single game removed from a Final Four run before getting posts unfavorably comparing BU to a coach with an objectively worse track record. Don't get me wrong, I knew it was going to happen...I just expected some basketball to happen first.
I may not have read all the comments, but I took it just as giving Musselman (and some others) the benefit of the doubt for now. I didn't see anything negative about BU
Hey kids, maybe stop bouncing around from school to school, learn a system you can excel in. Maybe have a life outside of basketball.
You're right my bad.
Jaylan Mitchell is the guy from Olney.
Costanza was connected to Antigua or something.
Musselman has twice as many 2nd weekend appearances in less years, a better winning percentage, never had any of his seasons vacated, and at his 3rd school has started out better in his first two years at a football school than Underwood did at a basketball school. Don't get me wrong, I'll take Underwood as my coach, but Underwood is not objectively better. That's your opinion and maybe your as guilty of being prisoner of the moment as the people who insist on being critical.
Lets see what he actually has since you didn't even bother to look any of this up, apparently:
Underwood: 2 E8, 1 F4
Musselman: 2 E8, 2 S16
Underwood F4 in 2026, Musselman hasn't even made the tournament the last 3 seasons
Underwood: .688
Musselman: .672
Again, something that's trending in opposite directions
Oh, now we suddenly care about stuff like this, since Chris Beard and Will Wade apparently are no longer available...
Yes, he's really setting the world on fire at USC
I see @bavanga3 is no stranger to these types of discussions, though:
Search results for query: beard
www.illinoisloyalty.com
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Correction: Brad 1 E8... maybe he was right about the 2nd weekends... wherever we need to set the goal posts to disparage BU, I guess
Underwood has elevated the Illinois program to a higher competitive tier. I hardly think placing value on recency is being "prisoner of the moment", unless you actually think Brad's a poor D1 basketball coach (only way a comment like that makes any sense).
Would you still take Beard over Underwood?
Underwood has elevated the Illinois program to a higher competitive tier. I hardly think placing value on recency is being "prisoner of the moment", unless you actually think Brad's a poor D1 basketball coach (only way a comment like that makes any sense).
Would you still take Beard over Underwood?
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