Jaylon Tate's case dismissed
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Agree on both thoughts
Difficult situation for family, good to see that Jaylon was raised by a mom and grandmother that clearly are heartbroken over this. Really impressed by points made by mom and grandmom. Really hate that this has dragged out if Jaylon is truely innocent.
I cant say it enough that Jaylon really is a great kid. I watched him play from 7th grade on and I have heard nothing but great things about him. He was always a great student and a very nice kid, i truly believe he is innocent. I could be wrong but judging off his past and what I DO know, I have to think he is innocent.
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As one who knows pretty much the situation, I can confidently say that Tate is innocent. All of this should end for him soon.
Let me just say I hope you are correct:thumb:
Wow, that was really hard to watch. Glad he seems to have a strong family support system, hope this is over soon for them.
adogster
- Scottsdale, AZ
DanvIllini
Super Lurker
- Danville, IL
+1. People talk about our guys as numbers... This should give them a little more perspective.
I feel very comfortable in what I know about the whole situation, but alas, I cannot speak to what conclusion the judicial system is going to arrive at. All I will say, again, is that I would be completely shocked if anything other than an innocent verdict comes from the trial.
BananaShampoo
Captain 'Paign
- Phoenix, AZ
If anyone has seen "Making A Murderer" that sounds all too familiar.
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Never seen an "innocent" verdict. "Not guilty" or "dismissed" seem much more likely.
Tough to be that declarative based on publicly available information. You may very well be right, or there could be additional information we don't know.
Completely not true. Ask any prosecutor or defense attorney. Defendants typically don't go to trial unless (1) there's no plea offer, which is something you usually only see in very serious cases, (2) they're irrational, or (3) they believe they have a chance to prevail based on some weakness in the prosecution's case, e.g. the victim is uncooperative. I've worked in the criminal court system for nine years in three states. If it weren't for the fact the accused party is a college basketball player, everything about this case up to this point would be absolutely routine and commonplace in almost every aspect.
Edit: You could also add (4) they're innocent. But that doesn't mean that DV cases never go to trial based on this type of evidence. This evidence is in fact entirely typical for a DV case.
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Rob McColley also wrote up his thoughts following the hearing. He has been very clear from the beginning as to his thoughts of Tate's innocence. He takes it one step further in his latest article if you read between the lines . . .
http://illinireport.info/2016/04/ruling-good-news-jaylon-tate/
http://illinireport.info/2016/04/ruling-good-news-jaylon-tate/
Doesn't take much reading between the lines. The first couple paragraphs paint a pretty clear picture of who McColley believes is to blame for the battery. I think had Tate been an average citizen rather than a high profile athlete that this case would have been dismissed, but my guess is the DA doesn't want to do anything that could be perceived as favoring athletes.
Or, before we start bashing the State's Attorney and accusing them of ethical violations, perhaps we remember the facts that were reported. A woman goes to the hospital with an injury that was obviously the result of being punched in the mouth. Woman identified the person who struck her to at least three other people in separate conversations.
I'm NOT saying the accused party here is guilty or innocent. Based on everything that's been put out out there so far, I agree it looks like a difficult case to prove for the state. But it's hardly that the prosecution has NO case here. Again, if you spend any time in the criminal courts, you'd see that recantations and alibi testimony from people's friends are pretty common at trial and do not always lead to acquittals.
And don't take too much stock in McColly's "theory." If someone else was the real perpetrator but the victim did not want that person arrested, there was an easier way to accomplish that: don't report it to the cops. According to the N-G articles, the other male in the case was one of the people that notified the police. So how does that make any sense?
AutoPoster 3000 knows whereof he speaks. The State has a case. There is a good chance that case is insufficient to convince a finder of fact beyond a reasonable doubt, but that is not the same as no case at all. I don't think this is the place to speculate about the nature of the State's case, so I will stop here.
illinitrav
- NW Suburbs
Totally false and out of line.
Many victims of domestic abuse later falsely recant their statements because they fear further attacks from their abusers. While that does not appear to be the case here, the SA is simply doing their jobs. The SA knows they are not going to win this case but they have to give it their best shot for the victim's sake.
In the county I work, the SA is quick to dismiss any case where the victim lacks cooperation. In some cases, that's appropriate. But certainly not in domestic violence cases.
IllinoisFan733
- Chicago
Also, if JT truly is innocent, the trial could lead the to where charges are dropped against Mr. Tate and charges are then subsequently filed against the real abuser. That way, the person who assaulted the victim gets punished for their actions.
I'm not sure if JT is innocent or not, but finding justice for the victim is the most important thing IMO. If somebody assaults another person, they should pay the price for those actions.
If JT is innocent, the most important thing is he beats this. It would be a nice touch to find out who did it & have them prosecuted, but if that doesn't happen it will be partially the victims fault. But way more important an innocent person doesn't get nailed with this.
If Tate is found to be innocent of the charges, what are the chances that he files suit against the accuser/state for dragging him/his name through this?
I'm guessing the Tate family want to put all of this behind them ASAP and probably wouldn't drag this out any longer.
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