Maryland scandal

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TeamWilliams

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Don't see how the whole staff isn't fired.

Big ten cespool.

First Penn State, us with Beckman, then MSU, OSU now Maryland.

Who else am I missing since the Penn state scandal?

SMH.
 
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the national

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I didnt see this coming. There certainly has been alot of issues in the B1G. It makes me wonder if these things happen in other conferences too.
 
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FinalFour88

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I'm glad the former players and coaches came forward and spoke up. The examples offered in that article are despicable. And to answer another poster's question... no, this kind of stuff doesn't just happen in the Big Ten. It can (and does) happen around the country. To what extent, I have no idea. But this isn't just a Big Ten thing.
 
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EJ33 said:
Muschamp is long on tough short on brains. The story is very well sourced.

I'm shocked this story isn't bigger - the culture may be responsible for a player dying. Seems to me that's a significantly bigger deal than the tOSU situation.
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And so it continues. Perhaps this is why some people have a hard time coming forward or start as anonymous. Instant persecution of the accuser. Guess he was asleep during the sensitivity (and common sense) training session(s).
 
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jaked1121

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EJ33 said:
the culture may be responsible for a player dying
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The story I have heard is that medical personnel didn't respond accordingly. After McNair passed out, they didn't put him in an ice tub, which would have lowered his body temperature and could have saved his life. McNair came to the hospital with a 106 degree body temperature.
 
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Illiniaaron

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I've never understood this philosophy of mistreating people in an effort to get the best out of them. I understand that all of us can perhaps get too comfortable in our job or as a student and might need a wake up call, but this systematic abuse I don't get. Maybe some of these coaches are just sadists.
 
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Second and Chalmers

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Illiniaaron said:
I've never understood this philosophy of mistreating people in an effort to get the best out of them. I understand that all of us can perhaps get too comfortable in our job or as a student and might need a wake up call, but this systematic abuse I don't get. Maybe some of these coaches are just sadists.
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I think folks who played football would agree that there's a line between being a blue-language yeller and being a sociopath that isn't very fuzzy at all when you're the one on the receiving end of it. Nor should it be when you're the leader of the program. It's the difference between coming from a place of belief in the player's abilities versus a place of working through personality defects of the coach and needing to humiliate and make an example of people. I've seen both.

Football was the only team sport I ever played at a high enough level where I got that flavor of it, I'm sure from what I've heard that other sports have coaches like that, but then of course you add the meathead-y culture and physical danger aspects of it in football.

That even the head trainer was in on it makes this story just that much more disgusting. Nuke that program from orbit. Only way to be sure.
 
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Hoppy2105

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If somebody died because of a football program’s maltreatment, it seems only fair to give it the death penalty.
 
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Calvin

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the national said:
Maryland accepts responsibility of death of Jordan McNair, strength coach Rick Court has been fired.

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...ponsibility-mistakes-made-death-jordan-mcnair
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Wow, what an amazing President of Maryland. Stepped up and takes responsibility, publicly, morally and legally, apologizes, and looks for ways to express deep remorse. Staff associated with it is terminated.

As a sports fan, I'm so not accustomed to that kind of example, sad to say.
 
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Second and Chalmers

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Calvin said:
Wow, what an amazing President of Maryland. Stepped up and takes responsibility, publicly, morally and legally, apologizes, and looks for ways to express deep remorse. Staff associated with it is terminated.

As a sports fan, I'm so not accustomed to that kind of example, sad to say.
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Uh, if DJ Durkin keeps his job, it is one of the great examples of a University accepting zero responsibility for creating a terrible culture.

Durkin is Tim Beckman, but with a higher potential of wins in his future.

We did the right thing, for the wrong reason, but we did it. We shall see if Maryland does the same.
 
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BZuppke

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The University took the unprecedented step of taking on full responsibility right off the bat (will cost them millions) but it will rehabilitate them much more quickly. No way they keep Durkin.
 
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Ga65

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Full responsibility IMO would be firing the HC and the AD. Meyers offense is minor in comparison.