Michigan State: Mel Tucker fired

#51      

skyIdub

Winged Warrior
in fairness , they may have just found out very recently that he admitted it .
someone from MSU inside then leaked it to hurry this process along

all I’m saying is there are moving parts to the story - it’s not usually linear

I’m no fan of MSU, but there are legal hurdles they have to get past in this process

Yeah, "journalism" is now "First!", not truth, facts, or actual journalism.
 
#52      

TentakilRex

Land O Insects between Quincy-Macomb-Jacksonville
Yeah, "journalism" is now "First!", not truth, facts, or actual journalism.
Yeah, there is always a "plot twist" revealed a few days later. Personally I think won't be a good one for Tuck and/or MSU (admitting to the phone sex is massive red flag), but Matt Araiza and Shawn Oakman come to mind.

Personally I think Tucker is guilty.
 
#53      

skyIdub

Winged Warrior
Yeah, there is always a "plot twist" revealed a few days later. Personally I think won't be a good one for Tuck and/or MSU (admitting to the phone sex is massive red flag), but Matt Araiza and Shawn Oakman come to mind.

Personally I think Tucker is guilty.

Even if it was completely consensual, I would fire him. The level of...at the worst...epic stupidity...and at the very best....one of the worst examples of decision making in history....is enough to get rid of this idiot.
 
#55      

TentakilRex

Land O Insects between Quincy-Macomb-Jacksonville
Even if it was completely consensual, I would fire him. The level of...at the worst...epic stupidity...and at the very best....one of the worst examples of decision making in history....is enough to get rid of this idiot.
Especially trying this with Brenda Tracy, a rape survivor and anti-sexual harassment activist, is extra WTF.
 
#56      
https://athlonsports.com/college-fo...-state-reportedly-fires-head-coach-mel-tucker

Fired.

But there will be a lot more to this story that comes out in the days ahead. Let’s start with the MSU admin willing to let him stay on as coach from the time that the investigator report was completed in July until a hearing in October, but axed him less than 12 hours after USA Today published the story.
My experience working in and with higher ed is that dysfunction is more the rule than the exception. People in power roles doing dumb, sh!tty things with total hubris and few or no consequences. So I can see MSU admin sitting on this and only acting now that the cat's out of the bag.
 
#58      
Won't be the first, certainly won't be the last. I will say though, considering their basketball program, gymnastics program, and now their football program have all had high profile sexual assault and sexual harrassment cases, there needs to be a lot more heat on their athletic department regarding lack of appropriate safeguards and lack of institutional control.
 
#62      

Illini2010-11

Sugar Grove

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Though smart money is that will be ultimate outcome. Need to dot the "i's" and cross all the "t's" first.
 
#66      

SuperMetroid

Evanston
If there was any justice in this world Ped St. and NU football programs would have received the death penalty, along with MSU’s entire athletic department.
 
#67      
I understand keeping things confidential to protect the alleged victim, but allowing him to coach and run the football program seems like a very poor choice by the administration, especially with everything that’s happened there - and after witnessing the Fitzgerald hazing backlash.
 
#73      
Sorry to post a debunked story. No matter what, this is still extremely unseemly. I don't see how Tucker survives this.
 
#74      

mhuml32

Cincinnati, OH
As a lawyer, Mel is going to win a case against MSU if fired.. This story stinks to high heavens.

(a) these situations always stink for a million reasons, (b) I'm guessing 95% of all MSU procedural stuff is still unknown to the public (and possibly to most of MSU administration), and (c) there is a 99.9% chance this stuff never gets close to a court room.