Name, Image, Likeness Rule

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It's an odd situation with 18 and 19 year olds that are still in high school. While they're adults, schools still need to show parents records and adhere to their wishes. That only changes if the student is legally emancipated. I'm not saying that's what it'll take, but there's a lot more gray area to this than, "They're 18 and can do what they want." It'll take some puzzling out as this continues to develop.
Guess again.


"Once you’re 18 or graduate, you’re entitled to see both your permanent and temporary record, and your parents aren’t entitled to see anything."
 
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IlliniKat91

Chicago, IL
#105      

Go Nats 88 Illini

Fairfax, VA
I'm telling you as someone who works in an Illinois public school, that's not how it goes down.
As someone who works centrally in a Virginia school system, and deals a great deal with student records, while there are federal guidelines/madates (FERPA), states also have varying requirements beyond FERPA -- they are not all the same. Now, back to sports. and NIL.
 
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IlliniKat91

Chicago, IL
As someone who works centrally in a Virginia school system, and deals a great deal with student records, while there are federal guidelines/madates (FERPA), states also have varying requirements beyond FERPA -- they are not all the same. Now, back to sports. and NIL.
This was tied to NIL. The question was what's to stop 18 year olds in high school from benefiting. My only point was that there's nothing to stop it, but it won't be as clean cut a some think. 18 is an odd age where you're legally an adult but more often than not still dependent on your parents for the majority of support. Some attorneys will get rich figuring it out on behalf of kids and their families, and then the NCAA will need to decide how they want to handle that.

If I had to guess, I'd wager that they'd say that kids need to come in without endorsements. I'd also call that a slippery slope and an arbitrary line, but we're talking about the NCAA here.
 
#107      
It's an odd situation with 18 and 19 year olds that are still in high school. While they're adults, schools still need to show parents records and adhere to their wishes. That only changes if the student is legally emancipated. I'm not saying that's what it'll take, but there's a lot more gray area to this than, "They're 18 and can do what they want." It'll take some puzzling out as this continues to develop.
And I still need to pay their mom until they graduate bc they are not emancipated until they turn 18 or graduate HS, “whichever is later”
 
#108      

IlliniKat91

Chicago, IL
And I still need to pay their mom until they graduate bc they are not emancipated until they turn 18 or graduate HS, “whichever is later”
Yep. And they're still listed as dependents on things like FAFSA even though they're expected to handle their own matters when they get to college. It'll be interesting to see play out from a thought exercise perspective.
 
#109      

Go Nats 88 Illini

Fairfax, VA
This was tied to NIL. The question was what's to stop 18 year olds in high school from benefiting. My only point was that there's nothing to stop it, but it won't be as clean cut a some think. 18 is an odd age where you're legally an adult but more often than not still dependent on your parents for the majority of support. Some attorneys will get rich figuring it out on behalf of kids and their families, and then the NCAA will need to decide how they want to handle that.

If I had to guess, I'd wager that they'd say that kids need to come in without endorsements. I'd also call that a slippery slope and an arbitrary line, but we're talking about the NCAA here.
Fair enough. A lot of questions out there and a lot of nuance to work out it it runs to high schools.
 
#110      
We need to be proactive on this and not reactive.

Serious question.

Would/could/should or has the Athletic Department hired a person to be director of “alumni and community relations” for athletes that goes out and find sponsorships and endorsements and also reviews any contracts that an athlete my be bring to them?

I still can’t believe any university has a better resource pool than we do. Maybe I’m barn blind. 🤷‍♂️
 
#111      
Question: What would keep a school from doing a team (group) endorsement of several of its players....you come to UI and we can put you in with Kofi and Belo on several ads, endorsements, or whatever you want to call them...you'll become a instant household name and earn some serious $$...get a good education at a great University, win championships, etc, etc.....Kofi and Belo go pro, then you're the alpha....with young upcoming studs wanting to do ads endorsements, etc with you as you gain fame and fortune before going pro........
 
#112      
We need to be proactive on this and not reactive.

Serious question.

Would/could/should or has the Athletic Department hired a person to be director of “alumni and community relations” for athletes that goes out and find sponsorships and endorsements and also reviews any contracts that an athlete my be bring to them?

I still can’t believe any university has a better resource pool than we do. Maybe I’m barn blind. 🤷‍♂️
I believe this is not legal. Not sure if that's Illinois law or NCAA regs. I think the Opendorse helps, but I'm with you on needing some real chops behind finding these relationships. Get an agency in Chicago or locally that can really make these connections.
 
#113      
I believe this is not legal. Not sure if that's Illinois law or NCAA regs. I think the Opendorse helps, but I'm with you on needing some real chops behind finding these relationships. Get an agency in Chicago or locally that can really make these connections.
I wondered about that. Seems dumb that the university could not hire a support person to help these athletes make sure they don’t get stuck with a bad contract/endorsement and also provide some support related to money management.

But many rules are setup in a stupid way
 
#114      
I wondered about that. Seems dumb that the university could not hire a support person to help these athletes make sure they don’t get stuck with a bad contract/endorsement and also provide some support related to money management.

But many rules are setup in a stupid way
I get the sense that the DIA is looking to identify those people and perhaps guide them in a legal and ethical way to the athletes.
 
#115      
These kids are now free agents, they will go wherever they are offered the most money. This will ruin college sports.
 
#116      

illini80

Forgottonia
These kids are now free agents, they will go wherever they are offered the most money. This will ruin college sports.
Maybe. It will change it for sure. College sports as it was has been ruled basically illegal tho so we need to find a new path. We may or may not like it.
 
#117      
We need to be proactive on this and not reactive.

Serious question.

Would/could/should or has the Athletic Department hired a person to be director of “alumni and community relations” for athletes that goes out and find sponsorships and endorsements and also reviews any contracts that an athlete my be bring to them?

I still can’t believe any university has a better resource pool than we do. Maybe I’m barn blind. 🤷‍♂️
I agree, and I am guessing there is probably PR/Marketing department that will help support these student athletes.
They should also help support them in their future career like they do for all other students.

Heck maybe we can spend a little less on facilities and help those who generate the revenue
 
#118      
It will be interesting to see if the Hoosiers who have a long time tradition of not having the names of the players on the uniforms. With the new changes they could run into some problems with high profile recruits who will surely insist their names be prominently displayed.
 
#119      
We need to be proactive on this and not reactive.

Serious question.

Would/could/should or has the Athletic Department hired a person to be director of “alumni and community relations” for athletes that goes out and find sponsorships and endorsements and also reviews any contracts that an athlete my be bring to them?

I still can’t believe any university has a better resource pool than we do. Maybe I’m barn blind. 🤷‍♂️
Not sure to what extent but I believe Patrick Pierson on the football staff is going to be involved in some of this...
 
#121      
If Hercy Miller really got $2 million, Bronny James is going to get 10. Kid already has 6 million IG followers, can actually play ball, and will have the entire Klutch Sports/UTA operation behind him.

Craziest of all, my estimate might turn out low. 😳
 
#122      
If Hercy Miller really got $2 million, Bronny James is going to get 10. Kid already has 6 million IG followers, can actually play ball, and will have the entire Klutch Sports/UTA operation behind him.

Craziest of all, my estimate might turn out low. 😳
I'd be surprised if Nike didn't sign up Bronny just to be able to feature him in ads with his dad. Now they don't have to wait until he's in the NBA.
 
#123      
It also seems to me that HS kids could now get paid by shoe companies or whoever to play on EYBL teams. What has kept the (alleged) payments under the table is that evidence of payments could render a kid NCAA ineligible. I would think that’s no longer the case. There probably are High School athletic associations that will continue to enforce amateurism rules, but, oh well, kids will just stop playing in those associations.

This all seems rather inevitable, and I’m not that torn up about it, as kids under 18 have gotten paid to play sport in other countries for YEARS.
 
#124      
Honest Question: As we get into post season play ( B10 tourney and ncaa tourney) will B10, ncaa, ESPN etc have to pay players for the use of their name image or likeness in commercials and promotions that will benefit $$$ those organizations and those tourneys????
 
#125      

illini80

Forgottonia
Honest Question: As we get into post season play ( B10 tourney and ncaa tourney) will B10, ncaa, ESPN etc have to pay players for the use of their name image or likeness in commercials and promotions that will benefit $$$ those organizations and those tourneys????
I don’t know, but I assume when players sign up they give those institutions the right to use their likeness. Maybe someone with direct experience can weigh in.
 
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