NBA Draft 2027
QC: 8
Vaaks: 28
Mirk: 30
Andrej: 60
The QC draft hype has left the station.
"Quentin Coleman, Illinois freshman, 6-4 point guard
Coleman is the replacement for Keaton Wagler. They’re different players, however. Coleman relies on his speed and does not need a ball screen to get leverage, which is part of the reason why Illinois has completely changed its offense. Similar to Wagler, he can shoot 3s off the bounce and set up teammates. Making smart decisions will be the key to his success, and what scouts are observing. Defensively, his effort and fight jump out. He was diving on the floor in exhibition games. He averaged 17 points and six assists in the Illini’s two exhibitions against high-majors.
Also worth watching for the Illini are David Mirković, a point forward who plays a fun “Slow-Mo” game, and Andrej Stojaković, who is one of the best downhill drivers in the country and should also benefit greatly from the Illini’s new offensive approach."
“6. Quentin Coleman, SG/PG, Illinois
Freshman | Height: 6-4 | Age: 18.3Coleman has been on quite the trajectory over the past year, putting himself in the one-and-done conversation after building momentum with NBA scouts in the spring and summer. While he doesn't enter the season with the same national cachet as Smith or Holt, he's not all that far behind them considering the all-around strides he has made and the similar archetype he fits as a combo guard who impacts winning in several different aspects.
While Coleman is stylistically different from Keaton Wagler, whose minutes he'll replace at Illinois, he is set for a major role thanks to his impact as a disruptive defender, outstanding rebounder and improving perimeter scorer. He'll have to continue polishing his handle and shot creation to earn a major on-ball timeshare in the pros, but he's an increasingly confident shooter capable of making plays for teammates, pointing to long-term offensive upside.”
To recap, QC has now been ranked:
— #6 by ESPN
— #7 by Sam Vecinie / The Atheltic
— #8 by Bleacher Report
— #6 by ESPN
— #7 by Sam Vecinie / The Atheltic
— #8 by Bleacher Report
pruman91
- interviewing new NL's daily....I really really am
I watched AZ and Caleb Holt in their recent loss and was not very impressed with either the team or Holt.....# 5 ranking was way to high for them and Holt in no way impressed me as a one and done player......maybe 1st game jitters but maybe not ....JMHO ....
Coleman is 6.
Mirkovic is 32.
Vaaks is 57.
Stojakovic is 59.
Tomi is 80.
Z is 81.
DICKnaggie
- Champaign
Dre will move up if he keeps his 3pt percentage up. Dangerous player in the pros.
Over the next 30+ games, his shooting will tell the story of where he'll be drafted. He clearly has the athleticism, but his perimeter game is dreadful. If he can can rectify that to a reasonable level, it's really good news for our team and for his prospects moving forward.
idk if its "dreadful" really, it was discussed last year ad nauseum how tiny a sample size of 82 three point attempts is
he is shooting 31% from three point range in his college career from three, higher than the college career percentages of some nba all stars... tyrese maxey 29 percent at kentucky, kawhi leonard 25% at sd state, jaylen brown 29% at cal, demar derozan 17% at usc, jimmy butler 26% at marquette, etcetera
his form looks slightly different this year, i think... idk, have to watch some more games to really tell if it is or if i am imagining it
Over the first two games, he’s shooting 50% from 3pt. (3-6)
Against Cincinnati: No 3pt attempts
Against Baylor: 1-3 from 3pt
Against UIC: did not play
So through 4 games of data, he’s shooting 44.4% from 3.
All were drafted after their freshman year except Kawhi (after soph year and known for his defensive value and ridiculous rebounding) and Butler, who actually shot 38.3%
good call on butler, he shot 38% on 94 total attempts in his career
and i wasnt saying andrej would be an nba all star, just putting the shooting percentages in perspective... the bar is way lower
since the nba all star thing got this all twisted, theres probably literally hundreds of examples of nba players who *didnt* make an all star game that shot less than 31% in college (and that dont have andrej driving ability)
The problem that he's going to have is that while his form can be tweaked to help a bit to help with a quicker trigger and probably give him better rotation more frequently, but it can't be overhauled, which would be required of him to be a consistent shooter. You just don't shoot a certain way for 21+ years, then reimagine it on the fly b
His dad being who is, I can't believe that he didn't alter that form in the 6th grade, but it is what it is now. Consistent shooters get the ball in the pocket, gather, lift and release and it's the same stroke every....single....time. Ethan Brown is a phenomenal example. Man, he gets a pass, it's in the pocket and with one smooth stroke and he has a wildly quick trigger and the release and rotation is the same way, every time. With Drej, that form will not allow for that replication and consistency. He's a good basketball player, which puts him at 30%, but getting that shot off with heavy pressure and size coming at him.....I think that train left the station.
Can he be a good enough perimeter player to hang around for more than just a cup of coffee in the pros? Potentially, but it's going to take him to become a fantastic dribble drive finisher (2026 NCAA Tournament) to make up for the shooting concerns.
The NBA had the same concerns about Ayo, which landed an All American in the 2nd round. That worked out beautifully.
Last year: 24.4% from 3pt is definitely dreadful.
One could argue an 82 shot sample size should actually help his percentage, because he’s only taking the highest quality shots.
(none of this means he can’t improve; he likely has improved this season.)
Butler:
First season — 0.0% at 0.1 attempts per game
Second season — 50% at 0.9 attempts per game
Third season — 34.5% at 1.6 attempts per game
Career — 38.3%
….
As an aside, I think scouts care more about the percentages / stats during the final season rather than the entire career.
Guys can make improvements.
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the post said his perimeter game was dreadful, not his single season 82 attempt percentage, i agree 24% by itself is dreadful... he is 31% for his career... not 'dreadful'
Yes, his career percentage is actually average or only slightly below average.
For whatever reason, it plummeted to 24.4% last year.
….
3pt percentage variance is actually pretty common:
Last year there were 164 players who returned to CBB who shot at least 40% from three the year prior (min 40 attempts). Only 13% of them shot above 40% again the next year, and just 7% matched or improved their percentage from prior. (Per EvanMiya)
The question was whether he should be a 1st round pick. There are plenty of first round G/SFs who were poor 3pt shooters, but the list shortens when we're talking about seniors drafted primarily for their scoring ability.
Sample size is definitely worth bringing up, and his FT% implies he could be better than he has been. But I'm not sure how NBA execs will view that unless he shoots better this year
yep i saw the question, but was responding to the comment about his perimeter game being dreadful
(but to the question he was responding to, gonna be uphill climb for andrej to get in 1st rd regardless, imo)
the ft percentage could be an indicator but from what i have read over the years nba execs don't really care much about college three point percentage and view it as mostly misleading stat because theres typically not enough volume to judge based on that alone