NCAA, Power 5 agree to let schools pay players
Could college baseball come out of this the big winner? Instead of toiling in the minors, would the best young players prefer a guaranteed four-year college salary?
The NIL genie ain’t going back into the bottle. I think the payments coming from schools will be more like the baseline floor for football and basketball salaries.
Lawsuits galore if those not generating much revenue get a larger piece of the pie than what the football and basketball believe they deserve.
and provide protection from further antitrust lawsuits that will allow colleges to make and enforce rules that will protect our student-athletes and help ensure competitive equity among our teams."
Cheaters always gonna cheat.
It's not a draft. When you have to recruit players they will always cheat however necessary. Certain teams are immune to punishment.
There will still be bagmen.
Until you can pay a player any amount of money that can come from anyplace, and legally recruit other teams' players any time, there will be bag men. If there is any rule to break, it will be broken.
Cheaters always gonna cheat.
It's not a draft. When you have to recruit players they will always cheat however necessary. Certain teams are immune to punishment.
There will still be bagmen.
Until you can pay a player any amount of money that can come from anyplace, and legally recruit other teams' players any time, there will be bag men. If there is any rule to break, it will be broken.
Please let this be many many decades down the line when Whitman is an old far with multiple championships from numerous collegiate sports at Illinois
Agreed! The worst nine words any of us want to hear is, "Ron Guenther has agreed to come out of retirement..."
and women.
Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
traditional college athletics are now dead, especially in the revenue sports
Im just not sure at all what it will look like when we get to the other side of all this, but I know it will never be near what it used to be
its very sad to me. not because players are getting paid, its how its all being done, all the radical changes in every aspect of college sports, and its starting the pro sports model 4 years earlier in a players development, and Im not a fan of pro sports really as compared to the previous college model.
P5 football will leave the NCAA, and there will be a new governing body , which is good. Most of this mess is the NCAA's fault
The NCAA will be for all the other schools in DI, DII and DIII
Im just not sure at all what it will look like when we get to the other side of all this, but I know it will never be near what it used to be
its very sad to me. not because players are getting paid, its how its all being done, all the radical changes in every aspect of college sports, and its starting the pro sports model 4 years earlier in a players development, and Im not a fan of pro sports really as compared to the previous college model.
P5 football will leave the NCAA, and there will be a new governing body , which is good. Most of this mess is the NCAA's fault
The NCAA will be for all the other schools in DI, DII and DIII
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
Bolded is key for me.
Illinois college athletics have been perhaps my #1 favorite pastime over the course of my life. Today's NBA is at the absolute bottom.
I just hope (1) the theorized $20M salary cap, (2) short/long term player contacts, and (3) TItle IX implications, will promote more equity among teams and conferences, sorta like the NFL's salary cap, where even the Detroit Lions can win a championship! Specifically, I'm hoping that future 5-star and 4-star athletes are spread more evenly across the Power 4 teams.
hooraybeer
- Pittsburgh, PA
I have read different articles/sources that report the $20m/year that schools will be allowed to pay players, but haven’t seen anywhere where that $20m will come from.
I had hoped that the NCAA would finally be forced to cut into their profits and pay each institution involved the $20mil/year for this, but worry that it will inevitably fall on individual institutions to come up with this money on their own and allow the NCAA to continue to profit from it all in the background
I had hoped that the NCAA would finally be forced to cut into their profits and pay each institution involved the $20mil/year for this, but worry that it will inevitably fall on individual institutions to come up with this money on their own and allow the NCAA to continue to profit from it all in the background
TV revenue will be the number one place money comes from. Ticket sales will compliment, not support, basketball and football programs.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Totally agree, which makes this line from Whitman's thing interesting:
"We also expect a new enforcement regime that will permit only true, market-rate name-image-likeness appearance and endorsement opportunities for student-athletes."
I don't see how a lawsuit settlement accomplishes that.
I don't believe independent contractor status would ever fly in court. There are rules and legal tests for which classification applies.
Although 1099 v W2 can be abused at times, any IRS or court challenge to an improperly classified role will often result in reclassification with back pay and benefits. Just ask Microsoft.
Taking a step back, I believe collective bargaining to be the answer as it is for other pro sports.
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Billions and billions of dollars disagree.
I'm troubled by the comment "We also expect a new enforcement regime that will permit only true, market-rate name-image-likeness appearance and endorsement opportunities for student-athletes.". Everytime entities try to govern market rates they set up artificial barriers, price fixing, and uneven enforcement of rules. They may actually set-up scenarios where their interpretation of the "market rate" is overly high, like when governments get invovled in subsidies.
Markets can be fickle, who would of thought years ago that two average female basketball players from Fresno would be cashing in on millions.
Markets can be fickle, who would of thought years ago that two average female basketball players from Fresno would be cashing in on millions.
Remember that the NCAA is a non-profit, member-run organization comprised of all the member institutions. The NCAA already redistributes all proceeds (after expenses) back to the institutions and athletes. What we are witnessing is
Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
college revenue sports are NOTHING like what they used to be
what we have now is a totally different thing, for good or for bad
I have heard "experts" believe this will lead to universities dropping men's non-revenue sports like baseball.
Agree completely, but college sports have been changing for a long time, and it's certainly not dead.
I have no idea where this all leads, but I do think the NCAA trying to keep revenue and non-revenue sports together is irresponsible. The two really don't mix with athlete's rights to make money being recognized, and Title IX having it's own requirements. There's a million reasons why they need to be treated differently, and the market will force that to happen.
That said, history says the NCAA will be well behind the curve.
That is the payed football players = payed women players per title 9. No money for anyone else theory. Lot to sort out here, how does one compare value across sports and sexes for compensation.
I’m not sure I believe first take doom and gloom predictions like that though. I don’t think any of the prognosticators got that the big winners on NIL would be women gymnasts before that happened.
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Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Totally ignorant here, but I have always heard that the DIA runs on private donations. Could they somehow be "private" DIA employees??