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<blockquote data-quote="Fighter of the Nightman" data-source="post: 1879770" data-attributes="member: 590800"><p>I <em>think</em> the simplified version of what you suggested is the one I put forth ... and I do have that. Using that, these are the Big Ten results. For simplicity's sake, I counted vacated Tournament appearances, and these are obviously pre-2023:</p><p></p><p>< School: # Appearances (# Exceeding - # Meeting - # Underperforming) ></p><p></p><p><strong>Michigan State:</strong> 31 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">10</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">14</span></strong> - <span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)"><strong>7</strong></span>)</p><p><strong>Purdue:</strong> 28 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">5</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">9</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">14</span></strong>)</p><p><strong>Indiana:</strong> 26 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">5</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">12</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">9</span></strong>)</p><p><strong>Illinois:</strong> 24 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">2</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">11</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">11</span></strong>)</p><p><strong>Wisconsin:</strong> 24 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">8</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">9</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">7</span></strong>)</p><p><strong>Michigan:</strong> 23 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">8</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">7</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">8</span></strong>)</p><p><strong>Maryland:</strong> 22 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">7</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">6</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">9</span></strong>)</p><p><strong>Ohio State:</strong> 22 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">6</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">5</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">11</span></strong>)</p><p><strong>Iowa:</strong> 20 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">3</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">12</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">5</span></strong>)</p><p><strong>Minnesota:</strong> 12 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">4</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">7</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">1</span></strong>)</p><p><strong>Nebraska:</strong> 7 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">0</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">5</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">2</span></strong>) ... worth noting they've never won a game!</p><p><strong>Penn State:</strong> 4 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">2 </span></strong>- <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">1 </span></strong>- <strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">1</span></strong>)</p><p><strong>Rutgers:</strong> 4 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">1</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">3</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">0</span></strong>)</p><p><strong>Northwestern:</strong> 1 Total (<strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">0</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">1</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">0</span></strong>)</p><p></p><p>So the only program who's "disappointed" with high seeds as often as we have is Ohio State, but they have made up for it with three times as many years "exceeding expectations." Pretty depressing, lol ... but hey, doesn't this mean we are due?! Seriously, for as many good teams as we have had over the years, we are SERIOUSLY due to make an unexpected run.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: rgb(243, 121, 52)">ILLINI RESULTS</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">Exceeded Seed Expectations</span></strong></p><p><strong>2005:</strong> #1 seed losing in the National Championship Game</p><p><strong>2004:</strong> #5 seed losing in the Sweet Sixteen</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">Met Seed Expectations</span></strong></p><p><strong>2013:</strong> #7 seed losing in the Second Round</p><p><strong>2011:</strong> #9 seed losing in the Second Round</p><p><strong>2007:</strong> #12 seed losing in the First Round</p><p><strong>2002:</strong> #4 seed losing in the Sweet Sixteen</p><p><strong>1998:</strong> #5 seed losing in the Second Round</p><p><strong>1997:</strong> #6 seed losing in the Second Round</p><p><strong>1995:</strong> #11 seed losing in the First Round</p><p><strong>1994:</strong> #8 seed losing in the First Round</p><p><strong>1993:</strong> #6 seed losing in the Second Round</p><p><strong>1989:</strong> #1 seed losing in the Final Four</p><p><strong>1985:</strong> #3 seed losing in the Sweet Sixteen</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">Underperformed Seed Expectations</span></strong></p><p><strong>2022:</strong> #4 seed losing in the Second Round</p><p><strong>2021:</strong> #1 seed losing in the Second Round</p><p><strong>2009:</strong> #5 seed losing in the First Round</p><p><strong>2006:</strong> #4 seed losing in the Second Round</p><p><strong>2003:</strong> #4 seed losing in the Second Round</p><p><strong>2001:</strong> #1 seed losing in the Elite Eight (these are the ones that are harsh...)</p><p><strong>2000:</strong> #4 seed losing in the Second Round</p><p><strong>1990:</strong> #5 seed losing in the First Round</p><p><strong>1988:</strong> #3 seed losing in the Second Round</p><p><strong>1987:</strong> #3 seed losing in the First Round ... sorry, guys! <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤢" title="Nauseated face :nauseated_face:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f922.png" data-shortname=":nauseated_face:" /></p><p><strong>1986:</strong> #4 seed losing in the Second Round</p><p></p><p>One alarmingly bizarre stat is that we are 1-5 in Second Round games as a #4 seed ... WTF?? In my head, though, I guess I feel like losing a frustrating game in the Second Round as a #4 seed is archetypal Illinois. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite15" alt=":cry:" title="Crying :cry:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cry:" /> </p><p></p><p>Here are some fun/extreme examples from other Big Ten schools!</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">Exceeded Seed Expectations</span></strong></p><p><strong>2015:</strong> #7 seed Michigan State losing in the Final Four</p><p><strong>2002:</strong> #5 seed Indiana losing in the National Championship Game</p><p><strong>2000:</strong> #8 seed Wisconsin losing in the Final Four</p><p><strong>2000:</strong> #6 seed Purdue losing in the Elite Eight</p><p><strong>1989:</strong> #11 seed Minnesota losing in the Sweet Sixteen</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: rgb(209, 72, 65)">Underperformed Seed Expectations</span></strong></p><p><strong>2021:</strong> #2 seed Ohio State losing in the First Round</p><p><strong>2016:</strong> #2 seed Michigan State losing in the First Round</p><p><strong>2006:</strong> #3 seed Iowa losing in the First Round</p><p><strong>1996:</strong> #1 seed Purdue losing in the Second Round</p><p><strong>1995:</strong> #3 seed Michigan State losing in the First Round</p><p><strong>1991:</strong> #3 seed Nebraska losing in the First Round ... the one that got away!!</p><p><strong>1986:</strong> #3 seed Indiana losing in the First Round</p><p><strong>1985:</strong> #1 seed Michigan losing in the Second Round</p><p></p><p>Enjoy, and apologies for any errors!! Bottom line, Illini Nation - it's time we got some luck in March, why not this year?!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fighter of the Nightman, post: 1879770, member: 590800"] I [I]think[/I] the simplified version of what you suggested is the one I put forth ... and I do have that. Using that, these are the Big Ten results. For simplicity's sake, I counted vacated Tournament appearances, and these are obviously pre-2023: < School: # Appearances (# Exceeding - # Meeting - # Underperforming) > [B]Michigan State:[/B] 31 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]10[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]14[/COLOR][/B] - [COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)][B]7[/B][/COLOR]) [B]Purdue:[/B] 28 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]5[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]9[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]14[/COLOR][/B]) [B]Indiana:[/B] 26 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]5[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]12[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]9[/COLOR][/B]) [B]Illinois:[/B] 24 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]2[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]11[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]11[/COLOR][/B]) [B]Wisconsin:[/B] 24 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]8[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]9[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]7[/COLOR][/B]) [B]Michigan:[/B] 23 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]8[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]7[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]8[/COLOR][/B]) [B]Maryland:[/B] 22 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]7[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]6[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]9[/COLOR][/B]) [B]Ohio State:[/B] 22 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]6[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]5[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]11[/COLOR][/B]) [B]Iowa:[/B] 20 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]3[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]12[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]5[/COLOR][/B]) [B]Minnesota:[/B] 12 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]4[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]7[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]1[/COLOR][/B]) [B]Nebraska:[/B] 7 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]0[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]5[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]2[/COLOR][/B]) ... worth noting they've never won a game! [B]Penn State:[/B] 4 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]2 [/COLOR][/B]- [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]1 [/COLOR][/B]- [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]1[/COLOR][/B]) [B]Rutgers:[/B] 4 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]1[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]3[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]0[/COLOR][/B]) [B]Northwestern:[/B] 1 Total ([B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]0[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]1[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]0[/COLOR][/B]) So the only program who's "disappointed" with high seeds as often as we have is Ohio State, but they have made up for it with three times as many years "exceeding expectations." Pretty depressing, lol ... but hey, doesn't this mean we are due?! Seriously, for as many good teams as we have had over the years, we are SERIOUSLY due to make an unexpected run. [B][COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]ILLINI RESULTS[/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]Exceeded Seed Expectations[/COLOR] 2005:[/B] #1 seed losing in the National Championship Game [B]2004:[/B] #5 seed losing in the Sweet Sixteen [B][COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]Met Seed Expectations[/COLOR] 2013:[/B] #7 seed losing in the Second Round [B]2011:[/B] #9 seed losing in the Second Round [B]2007:[/B] #12 seed losing in the First Round [B]2002:[/B] #4 seed losing in the Sweet Sixteen [B]1998:[/B] #5 seed losing in the Second Round [B]1997:[/B] #6 seed losing in the Second Round [B]1995:[/B] #11 seed losing in the First Round [B]1994:[/B] #8 seed losing in the First Round [B]1993:[/B] #6 seed losing in the Second Round [B]1989:[/B] #1 seed losing in the Final Four [B]1985:[/B] #3 seed losing in the Sweet Sixteen [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]Underperformed Seed Expectations[/COLOR] 2022:[/B] #4 seed losing in the Second Round [B]2021:[/B] #1 seed losing in the Second Round [B]2009:[/B] #5 seed losing in the First Round [B]2006:[/B] #4 seed losing in the Second Round [B]2003:[/B] #4 seed losing in the Second Round [B]2001:[/B] #1 seed losing in the Elite Eight (these are the ones that are harsh...) [B]2000:[/B] #4 seed losing in the Second Round [B]1990:[/B] #5 seed losing in the First Round [B]1988:[/B] #3 seed losing in the Second Round [B]1987:[/B] #3 seed losing in the First Round ... sorry, guys! 🤢 [B]1986:[/B] #4 seed losing in the Second Round One alarmingly bizarre stat is that we are 1-5 in Second Round games as a #4 seed ... WTF?? In my head, though, I guess I feel like losing a frustrating game in the Second Round as a #4 seed is archetypal Illinois. :cry: Here are some fun/extreme examples from other Big Ten schools! [B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]Exceeded Seed Expectations[/COLOR] 2015:[/B] #7 seed Michigan State losing in the Final Four [B]2002:[/B] #5 seed Indiana losing in the National Championship Game [B]2000:[/B] #8 seed Wisconsin losing in the Final Four [B]2000:[/B] #6 seed Purdue losing in the Elite Eight [B]1989:[/B] #11 seed Minnesota losing in the Sweet Sixteen [B][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]Underperformed Seed Expectations[/COLOR] 2021:[/B] #2 seed Ohio State losing in the First Round [B]2016:[/B] #2 seed Michigan State losing in the First Round [B]2006:[/B] #3 seed Iowa losing in the First Round [B]1996:[/B] #1 seed Purdue losing in the Second Round [B]1995:[/B] #3 seed Michigan State losing in the First Round [B]1991:[/B] #3 seed Nebraska losing in the First Round ... the one that got away!! [B]1986:[/B] #3 seed Indiana losing in the First Round [B]1985:[/B] #1 seed Michigan losing in the Second Round Enjoy, and apologies for any errors!! Bottom line, Illini Nation - it's time we got some luck in March, why not this year?! [/QUOTE]
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