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- Chicago
My guess is that Alstork's lack of defense on that last play was heavily influenced by his fear of fouling. A new team, new coach, and new system has him playing tentatively.
Nebraska 64, Illinois 63 POSTGAME
I only saw it in real time, but thought we did a good job of slowing them up the floor. The shot wasn't a gimme. And you don't want to foul a guy attempting a three.
I am sure however that Alstork was afraid of fouling. Remember the Maryland game?
As I am thinking about it, we have lost in almost every conceivable close game senario.
All of you are right, of course. My scenario sure seemed reasonable
though two nights ago, when I was trying to take some sting out of
that loss. Time now to switch gears and turn things around at Wisky.
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
The OOB call like the 2013 Miami game hasn't happened yet. Of course, there's a replay rule for that now. :tsk:
RedRocksIllini
- Morrison, CO
Please tell me your real name is Archie Miller.
RedRocksIllini — No, I’m not Archie Miller — although I’d like his paycheck. And if memory serves me correct, we lost our last game simply relying on defense because the fellow made one of those seldom made 3-point shots (you know, like the one Frazier made recently) — a shot the defenders were probably not going to challenge too strongly for fear of fouling. And giving two (2) foul shots doesn’t necessarily mean they will be made — foul shots aren’t a given, particularly in such circumstances. Relying on my suggested strategy we might, of course, still have lost — but I suggest the likelihood is that it would at least have prevented a loss in regulation with no time to respond. And if we’d have gotten the ball down court with the score tied, how likely would the Nebraska defenders be to strongly challenge a shot, knowing one free throw results in a loss ?
Why in the heck was nobody guarding Palmer that last play! You would think someone would be in his shirt the whole way up the court. Nobody was near him! This guy was having a good game and illini didn't have anybody close to him going up the court. That is unbelievable! There should have been somebody trying to deny him the ball.
Then Black is nowhere near him to pop out and Alstork made no effort to come over and try to harass him.
The most agregious error is letting him go down court with nobody on him. What is Underwood doing?
Then Black is nowhere near him to pop out and Alstork made no effort to come over and try to harass him.
The most agregious error is letting him go down court with nobody on him. What is Underwood doing?
He's keeping us in EVERY game, that's what he's doing! We haven't had this kind of exciting play in 10 years. We don't have the wins, but look how competitive we've become. We're in every game. How about a little support for the program.
Peoria Illini
- Peoria, IL
I hope you're being sarcastic.
If not:
You do realize we still had to also defend the two point shot as well, correct? We cheat up too much on Palmer on the wing and he back cuts for an uncontested layup. Dude made a great shot, like Trent made at the end of regulation against Iowa.
Kathy, I've seen some coaching errors this season that have been very costly. Errors that have surprised me. I'm not an Underwood, Groce or Weber fan. I'm an Illini fan no matter whose coaching. So, when I see things I point it out.
Players should always be aware of cuts to the basket. The most dangerous guy on the court for Nebraska that night should have had somebody right on him to try to deny the ball. If he would have made a back cut Black was there if needed. He's got to work for the ball not come down unimpeded. Frazier, did a good job recovering, but the play should never been allowed to develop like that without more aggressive defense!
Players should always be aware of cuts to the basket. The most dangerous guy on the court for Nebraska that night should have had somebody right on him to try to deny the ball. If he would have made a back cut Black was there if needed. He's got to work for the ball not come down unimpeded. Frazier, did a good job recovering, but the play should never been allowed to develop like that without more aggressive defense!
Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
That's really not true. Even the Groce teams had some pretty exciting wins.
I like the enthusiasm, and next year will absolutely have a better product on the floor, but I would be very surprised if we dont lose at least one kid to transfer. Attrition is going to happen.
Make sure you read the post before responding. The comment was that we have been in EVERY game. Notice every in call caps. The point was that every game has been competitive. Groce's teams were always good for a handful of blowouts every year. BW's teams tended to be more consistently competitive than but they were brutal to watch.
This team is fun to watch and if we could cut down on the turnovers and get a rim protector, we would be tough to beat.
I'd wait for teams like MSU, Purdue, and (shockingly) OSU, before I say this team wont have blowouts just like a Groce led squad. We've only really played Michigan so far this year in terms of true quality opponents. Mizzou and NMSU could both be tourney teams but I find it hard to find any other team we've played so far making the dance this year (perhaps Minny, but now thats a long shot).
Still, I agree this team appears to have more fight than the past couple years.
If we stay within 10 of Purdue, I will declare BU a coaching genius (dare I say "stable coaching genius"?)
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I actually think the % of us staying within 10 with Purdue, is much higher than the % of us staying within 10 of Ohio State right now.
Didn't Purdue beat Nebraska by 12 and Nebby beat Wisconsin by 4. No reason we shouldn't be within 10 of Purdue, and with a cutdown on turnovers maybe an upset.
The Dave
- CA
+1. There was WAY too much standing and dribbling and then Frazier having to play hero ball as the shot clock wound down.
Not sure I understand the game correlation/ logic... but if we win against Purdue, BU will earn "supreme genius" rating
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
Black was on him and got caught on a screen. Frazier switched, like he's coached to do, but Palmer was able to get the shot off. That play was not a coaching issue.
It was obviously a lack of
issue, the players played it right, the coach called it right, one player just played it better is all.Never thought I would see the day as a Cub fan, that I would enjoy their World Series win before an ILLINI NCAA championship, but it happened!