NFL Draft

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Dan

Admin
2024 NFL Draft
April 25th–27th
Detroit
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
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Dbell1981

Decatur, IL
That staff may have found those talents but would they have turned into the players they are without the current staff? We will never know.
 
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He deserves a look, just not an invite. No shame in that. There's a lot of QB's who achieved throughout the whole year and the league already had a tough time narrowing that list down. Let's see who's sharp enough to give JP a serious workout.
 
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In 1995 we had the 2nd overall pick Kevin Hardy and 3rd overall pick Simeon Rice. Yet we finished 5-5-1. That is an example of mediocre coaching of great talent. Lou Tepper was the hire that reversed the progress under Mike White and John Makcovic. Turner Zook Beckman and Smith crashed us into basement. At least Turner got us to Sugar Bowl and Zook to Rose Bowl. Tepper Beckman and Smith never played on New Years Day. Mackovic ruined his career by taking Texas job. He failed there then at AZ. Maybe he was just lucky with Jeff George.
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It might also explain why he seems to be dropping to lower 1st round in a lot of mock drafts.
Yeah I saw that and wondered why - him not being the ideal size and now that he won't participate in the combine likely won't help, but he'll be a great value for someone.

He's not Aaron Donald by any stretch, but it's a similar story of a guy that dominated in college on a bad team, wasn't the ideal size and went #14, when he clearly should have been one of the top picks in the whole draft. I think it will be a similar story for Johnny, he's just hard to block for anyone and his versatility up and down the line will be very attactive to some teams that like to move their DL around.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
It might also explain why he seems to be dropping to lower 1st round in a lot of mock drafts.
Interior DL is considered a non-premium position and the conventional wisdom among scouts and front offices is increasingly hostile to expending premium resources on those players.

I personally think a lot of that is irrational extrapolation from the much more varied and logically sound case against drafting and paying RB's, but hey what do I know.

I said last year that Witherspoon had the Citizen Kane of defensive back tape. Well, whoever passes on Newton is going to find The Shining in their backfield before they know it.

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blackdog

Champaign
Interior DL is considered a non-premium position and the conventional wisdom among scouts and front offices is increasingly hostile to expending premium resources on those players.

I personally think a lot of that is irrational extrapolation from the much more varied and logically sound case against drafting and paying RB's, but hey what do I know.

I said last year that Witherspoon had the Citizen Kane of defensive back tape. Well, whoever passes on Newton is going to find The Shining in their backfield before they know it.

The Shining Horror GIF

Its also dumb because it was very easy to see in the Superbowl this year how much a top tier interior DL can impact a game.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Its also dumb because it was very easy to see in the Superbowl this year how much a top tier interior DL can impact a game.
Yeah there's kinda two claims there

1. You shouldn't use high draft picks or big free agent commitments on non-premium positions
2. A backfield-disrupting interior defensive lineman isn't a premium position

IMO both of those are wrong.

RB's being fungible and having a very short shelf life is a different issue, IMO.