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<blockquote data-quote="BananaShampoo" data-source="post: 1184944" data-attributes="member: 3403"><p>Yep. I was in school from '98 to '02. Some of the best times for both major sports. We had the '98 MicronPC bowl for football and then that awesome Sugar Bowl season and of course awesome Kruger and Self teams with Frankie and Cookie leading the way. Things were great and only looking better on the b-ball side after that. Then DWill and co left for the NBA, Dee and Augie graduated, and BW completely failed to capitalize on Illini basketball being on the highest of highs pulling a string of really weak classes. Seriously still don't know how he could have effed that up so badly - and now here we are. :tsk:</p><p></p><p>I give Groce a pass for the injuries, but I just haven't seen the coaching chops I was hoping to when he was hired. He talks a good game but doesn't back it up with anything coherent. He was supposed to be a math guy, using statistical analysis to optimize what we were doing, but I don't see how the application of anything that he's done has made the team better. Maybe it's a failed experiment and he doesn't have the ability to instill fundamental basketball strategy into his philosophy. All I know is that, as someone else alluded to in another post or thread (can't remember), there is no identity. And maybe that's his biggest flaw. All I know is he needs to come up with one, and fast, because without that it's tough to sell what you've got, and he desperately needs to be able to sell it to these '16 and '17 recruits or he's not going to be here come next April.</p><p></p><p>I know this has all been said before, and ad nauseum, but for some reason tonight, after watching another close loss, I felt the need to vent after sadly feeling almost numbness and emptiness (apathy?) about the team I've so dearly loved for the past few decades.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BananaShampoo, post: 1184944, member: 3403"] Yep. I was in school from '98 to '02. Some of the best times for both major sports. We had the '98 MicronPC bowl for football and then that awesome Sugar Bowl season and of course awesome Kruger and Self teams with Frankie and Cookie leading the way. Things were great and only looking better on the b-ball side after that. Then DWill and co left for the NBA, Dee and Augie graduated, and BW completely failed to capitalize on Illini basketball being on the highest of highs pulling a string of really weak classes. Seriously still don't know how he could have effed that up so badly - and now here we are. :tsk: I give Groce a pass for the injuries, but I just haven't seen the coaching chops I was hoping to when he was hired. He talks a good game but doesn't back it up with anything coherent. He was supposed to be a math guy, using statistical analysis to optimize what we were doing, but I don't see how the application of anything that he's done has made the team better. Maybe it's a failed experiment and he doesn't have the ability to instill fundamental basketball strategy into his philosophy. All I know is that, as someone else alluded to in another post or thread (can't remember), there is no identity. And maybe that's his biggest flaw. All I know is he needs to come up with one, and fast, because without that it's tough to sell what you've got, and he desperately needs to be able to sell it to these '16 and '17 recruits or he's not going to be here come next April. I know this has all been said before, and ad nauseum, but for some reason tonight, after watching another close loss, I felt the need to vent after sadly feeling almost numbness and emptiness (apathy?) about the team I've so dearly loved for the past few decades. [/QUOTE]
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