lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
And you look at the odds of meeting at least one of those teams in a scenario where you play 2, 3, 4 games.
Polls & Bracketology - Illinois #12 in AP Poll
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I’d really love to avoid Duke in K’s last year. You know the old saying about having to be ten points better to win on the road? Wel to beat K out his last year, you better be ready to blow them out and barely win.
Good point. It brings back bad memories of Bear Bryant's last game... We lost to AL in the Liberty Bowl. I was there and it seemed that it was a foregone conclusion...
illini80
- Forgottonia
Yeah, he was put in a near impossible situation with little game experience. I knew his family a little bit and felt terrible for him.
I had not kept up with all he’s done since graduation. Thanks for the info!
Illini_1979
- Oregon
I was there too! It was a long drive home...
Wokker
- "The Good Land", WI
35% of the time, the 12 seed wins 100% of the time.
Lol someone beat me to it, in GIF form!
Haha. That's why I don't gamble.
Yup, the ref's will be going above and beyond to help Coach K. As if having 6 or 7 five star recruits isn't enough.
InDaAZ
- Eugene, Oregon
The Lottery = tax on people who are bad at math
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
I got myself curious asking about our chances of getting into the Chicago Regional, so I decided to look back at the placement of "protected" (i.e., top 4) seeds since 2000. In the 20 seasons where the NCAAT had normally distributed sites, there were really only five seasons where one or more teams were placed in a Regional that was an undisputed, absolute homecourt advantage (this is just fun trivia...):
2000: #1 Michigan State in Auburn Hills, MI (Detroit)
2003: #1 Texas in San Antonio, TX
2005: #1 ILLINOIS in Rosemont, IL (Chicago)
2008: #1 North Carolina in Charlotte, NC and #2 Texas in Houston, TX
2017: #1 Kansas in Kansas City, MO
There were about nine other years where a top seed a "moderate" homecourt advantage, like Louisville in Indianapolis, IN or something.
It seems we should be hoping for Purdue to fall off of the 1-line, right? If they get Chicago as a 1 and we are, say, a 4-seed, they will ship us off to a different region. However, if Gonzaga is the 1 in Chicago, we could still be a 2-, 3- or 4-seed in the same region. Again, for fun, I found the following examples over that timeframe where I would consider the higher seed to have been "screwed" by being put in a market CLEARLY more favorable to a team seeded lower than them ... so there's hope! Roughly in order of how bogus the draw was...
2019: #1 North Carolina placed in Kansas City, MO with #4 Kansas
2003: #1 Oklahoma placed in Albany, NY with #3 Syracuse
2008: #1 Memphis placed in Houston, TX with #2 Texas
Bottom line, after all of that pointless babbling, I REALLY want to play at the United Center if we get that far. If we are in the Sweet Sixteen or Elite Eight at the UC ... wow, the atmosphere would be insane.
2000: #1 Michigan State in Auburn Hills, MI (Detroit)
2003: #1 Texas in San Antonio, TX
2005: #1 ILLINOIS in Rosemont, IL (Chicago)
2008: #1 North Carolina in Charlotte, NC and #2 Texas in Houston, TX
2017: #1 Kansas in Kansas City, MO
There were about nine other years where a top seed a "moderate" homecourt advantage, like Louisville in Indianapolis, IN or something.
It seems we should be hoping for Purdue to fall off of the 1-line, right? If they get Chicago as a 1 and we are, say, a 4-seed, they will ship us off to a different region. However, if Gonzaga is the 1 in Chicago, we could still be a 2-, 3- or 4-seed in the same region. Again, for fun, I found the following examples over that timeframe where I would consider the higher seed to have been "screwed" by being put in a market CLEARLY more favorable to a team seeded lower than them ... so there's hope!
Roughly in order of how bogus the draw was...2019: #1 North Carolina placed in Kansas City, MO with #4 Kansas
2003: #1 Oklahoma placed in Albany, NY with #3 Syracuse
2008: #1 Memphis placed in Houston, TX with #2 Texas
Bottom line, after all of that pointless babbling, I REALLY want to play at the United Center if we get that far. If we are in the Sweet Sixteen or Elite Eight at the UC ... wow, the atmosphere would be insane.
This cool…thanks for putting this up.I got myself curious asking about our chances of getting into the Chicago Regional, so I decided to look back at the placement of "protected" (i.e., top 4) seeds since 2000. In the 20 seasons where the NCAAT had normally distributed sites, there were really only five seasons where one or more teams were placed in a Regional that was an undisputed, absolute homecourt advantage (this is just fun trivia...):
2000: #1 Michigan State in Auburn Hills, MI (Detroit)
2003: #1 Texas in San Antonio, TX
2005: #1 ILLINOIS in Rosemont, IL (Chicago)
2008: #1 North Carolina in Charlotte, NC and #2 Texas in Houston, TX
2017: #1 Kansas in Kansas City, MO
There were about nine other years where a top seed a "moderate" homecourt advantage, like Louisville in Indianapolis, IN or something.
It seems we should be hoping for Purdue to fall off of the 1-line, right? If they get Chicago as a 1 and we are, say, a 4-seed, they will ship us off to a different region. However, if Gonzaga is the 1 in Chicago, we could still be a 2-, 3- or 4-seed in the same region. Again, for fun, I found the following examples over that timeframe where I would consider the higher seed to have been "screwed" by being put in a market CLEARLY more favorable to a team seeded lower than them ... so there's hope!
2019: #1 North Carolina placed in Kansas City, MO with #4 Kansas
2003: #1 Oklahoma placed in Albany, NY with #3 Syracuse
2008: #1 Memphis placed in Houston, TX with #2 Texas
Bottom line, after all of that pointless babbling, I REALLY want to play at the United Center if we get that far. If we are in the Sweet Sixteen or Elite Eight at the UC ... wow, the atmosphere would be insane.
sacraig
- The desert
2005 was just all around bonkers. Indianapolis, Chicago, and St. Louis. I mean... goodness, now I am even more sad that we didn't win it all after thinking about this again.I got myself curious asking about our chances of getting into the Chicago Regional, so I decided to look back at the placement of "protected" (i.e., top 4) seeds since 2000. In the 20 seasons where the NCAAT had normally distributed sites, there were really only five seasons where one or more teams were placed in a Regional that was an undisputed, absolute homecourt advantage (this is just fun trivia...):
2000: #1 Michigan State in Auburn Hills, MI (Detroit)
2003: #1 Texas in San Antonio, TX
2005: #1 ILLINOIS in Rosemont, IL (Chicago)
2008: #1 North Carolina in Charlotte, NC and #2 Texas in Houston, TX
2017: #1 Kansas in Kansas City, MO
There were about nine other years where a top seed a "moderate" homecourt advantage, like Louisville in Indianapolis, IN or something.
It seems we should be hoping for Purdue to fall off of the 1-line, right? If they get Chicago as a 1 and we are, say, a 4-seed, they will ship us off to a different region. However, if Gonzaga is the 1 in Chicago, we could still be a 2-, 3- or 4-seed in the same region. Again, for fun, I found the following examples over that timeframe where I would consider the higher seed to have been "screwed" by being put in a market CLEARLY more favorable to a team seeded lower than them ... so there's hope!
2019: #1 North Carolina placed in Kansas City, MO with #4 Kansas
2003: #1 Oklahoma placed in Albany, NY with #3 Syracuse
2008: #1 Memphis placed in Houston, TX with #2 Texas
Bottom line, after all of that pointless babbling, I REALLY want to play at the United Center if we get that far. If we are in the Sweet Sixteen or Elite Eight at the UC ... wow, the atmosphere would be insane.
Just for that comment, the refs just called another foul on Augustine.
FYI - Rutgers chances of going up is because they have less losses than the team in front of them - so more chances of going up 1 than going staying the same.
it’s basic probabilities. We have a greater chance of winning 2+ than 1st (though just barely). Purdue has a better chance of improving their ranking, than staying where they are, and since they can’t go past 1st it rolls into 1st. Take the % chance anyone moves up at all (not just by one spot, and not counting Nebraska) and you’ll see that purely by probabilities, pretty much everyone is more likely to move up than stay the same.
Agreed. Also, everyone keeps saying how any team can beat any other team any given night (well, except Nebraska).
We won. A B1G game. It was ugly. We won. You cannot say both, every team can win on any given night, then complain when we win (but not in the way you want).
The team wants to win. They don’t really care about “style points” or making you comfortable in your armchair watching on TV.
They beat a B1G team that was in a three game winning streak.
I’m not sure how Rutgers is still below 75 but Northwestern is in the 60s in NET making @Rutgers a Q2 game while home against Northwestern counted as a Q1 - but will certainly take the benefit of that as it relates to our win.
Seems insane to me that Rutgers can have 7 Q1+Q2 wins compared to 3 for Northwestern, but I guess the single Q4 loss has caused Rutgers to sink too far to climb back to Q1 road status.
Edit: I had it wrong, it was @NU that was a Q1 win, not the home game.
Seems insane to me that Rutgers can have 7 Q1+Q2 wins compared to 3 for Northwestern, but I guess the single Q4 loss has caused Rutgers to sink too far to climb back to Q1 road status.
Edit: I had it wrong, it was @NU that was a Q1 win, not the home game.
Northwestern win on Sunday is a Q2. At home has to be top 30 to be Q1, whereas away has to be top 75.
Yea - sorry, was remembering wrong. @NU was a Q1, but @Rutgers is a Q2 game, despite Rutgers having 5 more Q1+Q2 wins than Northwestern. NET seems to really punish the games you should win and not cost much if you lose what you should lose
The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
Somewhat hilariously, if Rutgers beats us, they probably move from 81 into the top 75 in the NET, which would make it a Q1 loss.
If we win tomorrow, there's still plenty of chances for Rutgers to move up and have it end up as a Q1 win for us, much like has happened with that @NU win.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
Yeah idk though. 3 Q1 wins only moved Rutgers up from 99 to 81 (18 spots). Northwestern in the meantime, with 2 Q3 and a Q2 win moved up 11. Just feels off. Rutgers seems much better than Northwestern with the exception of that 1 bad game in the beginning of the year. Northwestern is 1-9 vs Q1
The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
Rutger jumped 11 spots after they beat #24 MSU (111 to 100), 8 spots after they beat #17 OSU (99 to 91), and 13 spots after they beat #23 Wisky (94 to 81). We're currently 13th and thus higher ranked than the previous three, so it should be more than enough to move them the 6 spots needed. After us, they got teams ranked 9, 36, 23, 41 ahead of them. If they lose to us, but take two of those, as long as they don't take the bad loss to PSU, there's a good chance they're also in the top 75.
Bigtex
- DFW
Rutgers had a poor pre conference showing.
Preseason lost at DePaul, at umass, vs Lafayette.
Also lost at minnesota, northwestern, Penn st, and lost at home to Maryland.
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