Potential Rule Changes for 2021-22

#1      
M tipping over
Pdx
It seems like every year there are a new set of rules under contemplation. There are a number of fairly impactful ones under discussion for next year, especially ones that will impact end of game flow and strategy.

- allowing 6 fouls (limiting first half to 3)
- getting rid of the and-1 (see article)
- allowing a team to opt for a throw-in vs free-throws (important for end of game strategy)
- special rules for last couple of minutes about things like timeouts, reviews, etc
- eliminating 10 second backcourt rule
- changes to pivot rules / steps
- other minor stuff (I feel like I forgot one more important one though...)

Opening thread for discussion.

 
#3      
M tipping over
Pdx
Unless I really misunderstood something, I don't think they're thinking about getting rid of the and-1. Just the one-and-one (and beginning the double bonus earlier).
Yes you are correct. I didn’t type what I meant to say. Too many distractions today, like “work” lol.
 
#5      
“Allowing a team to opt for a throw-in vs free-throws (important for end of game strategy).”

Yes. This. The end of games should not be endless free-throw contests with action break after action break with so much standing around and teammate hand-slapping (even after MISSING the throws).

Losing team should have played better for 38 minutes if they want to get back into a game when behind.

The game should be played on the floor and within the flow of the game. Not a skill contest at the end to reward losing teams and penalize teams that know how to play a good floor game.
 
#6      
“Allowing a team to opt for a throw-in vs free-throws (important for end of game strategy).”

Yes. This. The end of games should not be endless free-throw contests with action break after action break with so much standing around and teammate hand-slapping (even after MISSING the throws).

Losing team should have played better for 38 minutes if they want to get back into a game when behind.

The game should be played on the floor and within the flow of the game. Not a skill contest at the end to reward losing teams and penalize teams that know how to play a good floor game.
I disagree. This turns late leads into insurmountable mountains. It’s like high school basketball with no shot clock and a lead in the last 2 minutes
 
#7      
M tipping over
Pdx
“Allowing a team to opt for a throw-in vs free-throws (important for end of game strategy).”

Yes. This. The end of games should not be endless free-throw contests with action break after action break with so much standing around and teammate hand-slapping (even after MISSING the throws).

Losing team should have played better for 38 minutes if they want to get back into a game when behind.

The game should be played on the floor and within the flow of the game. Not a skill contest at the end to reward losing teams and penalize teams that know how to play a good floor game.
Double like.
 
#8      
Champaign
“Allowing a team to opt for a throw-in vs free-throws (important for end of game strategy).”

Yes. This. The end of games should not be endless free-throw contests with action break after action break with so much standing around and teammate hand-slapping (even after MISSING the throws).

Losing team should have played better for 38 minutes if they want to get back into a game when behind.

The game should be played on the floor and within the flow of the game. Not a skill contest at the end to reward losing teams and penalize teams that know how to play a good floor game.

Would be interesting strategy to decline the fts and keep inbounding the ball and forcing the other team to foul out everybody trying to get a steal. Also risky because they could get the steal eventually.
 
#9      
M tipping over
Pdx
I disagree. This turns late leads into insurmountable mountains. It’s like high school basketball with no shot clock and a lead in the last 2 minutes
Not sure I see how this follows. No shot clock would be completely different. They did not suggest removing that. There were a couple of tourney games where the losing team kept fouling even when down 10+ with just seconds left. It was like gimme a break.
 
#10      
M tipping over
Pdx
Would be interesting strategy to decline the fts and keep inbounding the ball and forcing the other team to foul out everybody trying to get a steal. Also risky because they could get the steal eventually.
I was wondering about that too. But I think in most cases you take your free throws, especially if you had a good shooter get fouled. But let’s say Kofi got fouled. You just take the in-bounds play, and you don’t have to pull your best players at the end of the game for specific situations.
 
#12      
Absolutely love the move to 6 fouls! Why would you want your best players not to play for an arbitrary number! That's terrible marketing for a sport and one more foul does not make it a hacker sport (no matter what false narrative traditionalists want to paint on this).

It kills me too see a stud have to sit for 10 minutes in the first half because of a bad call by the ref or a flop.

I think there should be no ejection after 5 or 6 or whatever. You can penalize without eliminating eligibility. Perhaps a technical foul or free throw after 5 or 6... But your best players still play.
 
#13      
I think they should eliminate being able to call a timeout to maintain a possession.Such as when a player's laying on the floor , falling out of bounds,getting out of a trap and avoiding a 5 second call on an out of bounds play.
 
#14      
Spokane, WA
What about maybe making it a technical foul to yell "And one!!!!" after every shot? I would be down with that.

I don't like all the fouling at the end of games, either, but I would prefer that Elam ending rule that TBT used to what is potentially being proposed here.
 
#15      
BU:1 Trash cans:0
Chicago
What about maybe making it a technical foul to yell "And one!!!!" after every shot? I would be down with that.

I don't like all the fouling at the end of games, either, but I would prefer that Elam ending rule that TBT used to what is potentially being proposed here.
Immediate ejection if they yell "and one" and miss the shot. No leniency.
 
#16      
Not sure I see how this follows. No shot clock would be completely different. They did not suggest removing that. There were a couple of tourney games where the losing team kept fouling even when down 10+ with just seconds left. It was like gimme a break.
Every foul is out of bounds play with new shot clock
 
#17      
If you take a jump shot with the intention of only drawing a shooting foul, you should have to shoot your free throws with the exact same form. Not as bad in college, but just some ridiculous looking shots claiming to be shot attempts.
 
#18      
Parts Unknown
What about maybe making it a technical foul to yell "And one!!!!" after every shot? I would be down with that.

I don't like all the fouling at the end of games, either, but I would prefer that Elam ending rule that TBT used to what is potentially being proposed here.
Triple-like the Elam ending. End with a bucket.
 
#19      
M tipping over
Pdx
Every foul is out of bounds play with new shot clock
Okay good catch. Never even realized that. Not sure if I understand the language in this doc (below) but it looks like most times you would get 20 seconds per existing rules, which don’t seem to be in discussion to change that part.

I still like the idea of just playing the game in a more normal flow (although some of the review stuff might impact that).

 
#20      
M tipping over
Pdx
If you take a jump shot with the intention of only drawing a shooting foul, you should have to shoot your free throws with the exact same form. Not as bad in college, but just some ridiculous looking shots claiming to be shot attempts.
I laughed out loud reading this. Perhaps shoot it backwards leaning back, like you were playing HORSE.
 
#21      
It seems like every year there are a new set of rules under contemplation. There are a number of fairly impactful ones under discussion for next year, especially ones that will impact end of game flow and strategy.

- allowing 6 fouls (limiting first half to 3)
- getting rid of the and-1 (see article)
- allowing a team to opt for a throw-in vs free-throws (important for end of game strategy)
- special rules for last couple of minutes about things like timeouts, reviews, etc
- eliminating 10 second backcourt rule
- changes to pivot rules / steps
- other minor stuff (I feel like I forgot one more important one though...)

Opening thread for discussion.

Getting rid of the and 1 can’t be real lmao
 
#23      
Absolutely love the move to 6 fouls! Why would you want your best players not to play for an arbitrary number! That's terrible marketing for a sport and one more foul does not make it a hacker sport (no matter what false narrative traditionalists want to paint on this).

It kills me too see a stud have to sit for 10 minutes in the first half because of a bad call by the ref or a flop.

I think there should be no ejection after 5 or 6 or whatever. You can penalize without eliminating eligibility. Perhaps a technical foul or free throw after 5 or 6... But your best players still play.
Given the state of reffing, I'm down with this.