Pregame: Illinois at Indiana, Saturday, September 20th, 6:30pm CT, NBC

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#526      
I don't know why some of our fans would think Indiana is going to win this game by several TDs? That seems delusional. One guy I do actually take his opinion seriously is former Indiana WR. He's a pretty smart guy. He studies this stuff extensively and he's more knowledgeable than we are. He thinks Illinois OL is going to get folded like a cheap tent. He thinks the OL is the biggest difference between these teams. Our OL coach Bob Bostad was Bielemas OL coach at Wisconsin and he had a pretty good stint in the NFL. He's really solid.
 
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5. I’m gonna give a contrarian opinion to what I’ve heard a lot on podcasts and elsewhere. I know a lot of people are saying we can’t fall behind early. I actually disagree.

Same. I think the passing game is good enough to come from behind even a couple scores in the 4th.
I really don't know what to expect. The line seems reasonable --roughly a pick em game with the home team laying the points. I expect IU to be tougher than Duke and this to be a good test. Whoever wins is going to get a lot more respect in the polls and should be set up well to get to the CFP. Could be a heart-attack kind of game for the fans.
 
#528      
I don't know why some of our fans would think Indiana is going to win this game by several TDs? That seems delusional. One guy I do actually take his opinion seriously is former Indiana WR. He's a pretty smart guy. He studies this stuff extensively and he's more knowledgeable than we are. He thinks Illinois OL is going to get folded like a cheap tent. He thinks the OL is the biggest difference between these teams. Our OL coach Bob Bostad was Bielemas OL coach at Wisconsin and he had a pretty good stint in the NFL. He's really solid.
This is Exhibit 20 on why Indinia fans are so obnoxious. In what possible way does the Loosier OLine coach have any impact on the Illinois OLine performance in this game????? No team in college football is going to "fold the Illinois Oline like a cheap tent". Will they get pressure? Absolutely, so will the Illinois D. Give me a break.
 
#529      
I don't know why some of our fans would think Indiana is going to win this game by several TDs? That seems delusional. One guy I do actually take his opinion seriously is former Indiana WR. He's a pretty smart guy. He studies this stuff extensively and he's more knowledgeable than we are. He thinks Illinois OL is going to get folded like a cheap tent. He thinks the OL is the biggest difference between these teams. Our OL coach Bob Bostad was Bielemas OL coach at Wisconsin and he had a pretty good stint in the NFL. He's really solid.
Many folks on here would agree that the Illini OL has definitely struggled at times this season (against worse competition). The running game struggled early in games, until the opposition wore down (that will not be the case on Saturday). Altmyer has also been sacked a lot this season. That has been a major warning sign entering B1G play.

However, the good news that I see is that the Illini can scheme against some of these perceived weaknesses. I believe that the game plan will be quick routes to get the ball out of Altmyer's hand fast. The Illini always seem to have very good first drives. I expect that to be the case again. But your initial assessment is a possibility (but I think the Illini will improve here). The Illini will need to have better line play than they did the first three games if they will walk out of Bloomington with a win (I expect the line to be better than what was seen so far this season).

We will know much more about both of these teams Saturday night.
 
#531      
One big reason why I’m optimistic about this game and the entire season is that, through three games, Illinois has shown remarkable discipline in regards to lack of penalties and protection of the football. All things considered, the highly disciplined teams are the ones that have successful seasons. This is a far cry from previous Illinois teams that have seemingly racked up stupid penalties after stupid penalties, often at the worst possible times. This current team just seems built differently.
 
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The point I'm making is that people think Indiana has a better offensive line. I don't think that's really a big revelation. Also, that wasn't my opinion. He just didn't have much respect for Illinois OL. I really don't know? I've watched 0 minutes of Illinois football this year.

Another key is, who will Altmeyer throw the ball too? Beatty will have Ponds on him.
 
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#534      
Lowkey very worried about this game. I can handle a close loss, but my heart can’t handle if we get boat raced. Always a possibility with Cignetti
 
#535      
38-34 Indiana, which includes some kind of game swinging questionable call. I've always thought looking at our schedule this was the most likely game to get hosed.
Not saying you're wrong, but it really is bizarre that refs screwed us so hard last time we played at Indiana. It's like, having bogus calls that screw one team is never okay ... but I can at least wrap my mind around it when it's a ref caving to hall-of-famer Izzo's complaining, getting swept up in the hostile environment of Mackey Arena, having this unfair bias toward legendary programs like Michigan/OSU, etc .... but Indiana?! Lmao. What about Indiana Football and the fake Memorial Stadium would ever enamor a ref to favor them in any way? :ROFLMAO:
 
#536      
Not much to add, but I have always found it interesting how TOTALLY diametrically opposed narratives that could define a team's season can hang on the balance for a single game, lol. Saturday's result could have some fans feeling literally on top of the world or like our moment in the sun just ended depending on the result, even if neither is logical. Just a few interesting examples since Bret got here:

2022: W 9-6 vs. Iowa ... We survived this one by the skin of our teeth to move to 5-1 and finally enter the top 25! Tommy was injured, and our D outlasted a similarly elite Hawkeyes defense.
(Negative) If we lose this one, the pessimists come out in droves and declare that we only whooped Wisconsin the week before because the Badgers sucked. As soon as we got a "real test" vs. Iowa, we lost and dropped to 4-2.
(Positive) Because we won this one, we entered the following week's huge matchup with Minnesota feeling excited and eventually carried forward that momentum to reach 7-1 and a #16 ranking. We showed toughness and resilience without our starting QB and FINALLY did what it took to beat Iowa for the first time since 2008!

2022: L 24-31 vs. Purdue ... This frustrating home loss dropped us out of the top 25 and effectively killed our Big Ten West hopes.
(Negative) After a disappointing loss to MSU, we followed it up with a devastating home dud vs. Purdue to end our dreams of a Big Ten Championship Game appearance. What once looked like a truly special season while we were sitting at 7-1 after a beatdown of Nebraska in Lincoln is now looking a lot less shiny. While a huge improvement over past years, that "fairytale season" success that could catapult recruiting momentum is traded in for a "solid" 8-4.
(Positive) If we do JUST enough to beat Purdue, we right the ship, effectively clinch a spot in the Big Ten Championship Game, are cruising toward a 9-3 regular season and (most importantly) restore our fans' confidence. A letdown vs. MSU the previous week will not derail this ship, and this isn't your grandfather's Illini Football that faceplants whenever there is finally optimism!

2024: W 31-24 in OT at Nebraska ... The Illini score a top 25 road win while ranked for the first time since God-knows-when, and we move to 4-0 and #19 in the rankings.
(Negative) Sure, our top 25 win vs. KU under the lights was exciting ... but teams score upsets at home all the time, KU now looks like they were a paper tiger and we failed our first test with a ranking next to our names - Illinois still can't maintain success once there are actual expectations!
(Positive) We refused to let the KU win be a blip on the radar, and we grinded out a tough road win vs. a ranked opponent in a hostile environment. Sitting at 4-0, our fans ACTUALLY believe that this time it might be different.

2024: W 38-31 at Rutgers ... We steal a victory on a last-second miracle play and keep the dreams of a 9-win season and truly great bowl alive!
(Negative) If we lose this one, we prove that we are still the type of program that trips at the finish line when it looks like we might take that next step. Is two 8-win seasons in three years an amazing turn of events compared to past regimes? Of course ... but 10-2 or 9-3 was there for the taking, and we had everything to play for in Piscataway.
(Positive) Luck or not, our guys found a way to snatch a W, and we are one win against NU at a very Illini-friendly Wrigley Field away from winning 9 games for the third time this millennium.

2024: W 21-17 vs. #15 South Carolina ... We beat our first SEC opponent EVER and win a meaningful bowl game for the first time in decades.
(Negative) If we lose this one, we still walk away with a great season. However, the narrative is solidified that we are a rung below. We couldn't handle the athleticism and talent of a truly good SEC squad, and while we are all somewhat excited for 2025 ... people aren't exactly ready to be hurt again.
(Positive) What. A. Statement. We take on the allegedly hottest team in the nation, take their best punch and simply REFUSE to lose. The Illini are celebrating a Citrus Bowl championship, we are looking at a top 15 preseason ranking for the next year and most of us are still pinching ourselves to see if we are dreaming.

I feel that this Indiana game carries similar weight. Are we 3-1 with our only decent win over a paper tiger Duke team and unable to win the types of games we need to in order to dream about things like the CFP? Or are we 4-0, knocking on the door of the top 5 and silencing the doubters once again with a statement win?

I will say that I find it interesting that our Citrus Bowl win described above is not really living in people's psyche in this thread as much as it should. Could we lose to Indiana? DUH, lol. Are there concerning aspects to things like our slow starts? Yes. However, let's stop acting like we don't have a team full of guys who HAVE stepped up to these kinds of challenges and gotten wins before.
Reading your posts always makes me feel good. Keep up the good work Dayman
 
#538      
Same for us, probably.
I disagree completely here. The Illini still have a more realistic path to 10 wins with a loss on Saturday night compared to IU (the Illini schedule is much more manageable than IU's). Of course the odds of making the CFP decline substantially with a loss (and puts even more pressure to win on Homecoming against USC), but the Illini are still nowhere close to hopes going down the drain.
 
#541      
I disagree completely here. The Illini still have a more realistic path to 10 wins with a loss on Saturday night compared to IU (the Illini schedule is much more manageable than IU's). Of course the odds of making the CFP decline substantially with a loss (and puts even more pressure to win on Homecoming against USC), but the Illini are still nowhere close to hopes going down the drain.
I think if we lose very close and competitive, then fine. If it’s a 2-3 TD loss then I think we are not where we need to be to win enough games in our Big Ten schedule. This game is going to be a true B1G measuring stick to where we are at.

USC, Ohio State and Washington all look very tricky.
 
#547      
Xavier Scott being out does not make me feel great about this game. He's far and away our best CB. If Clarke isn't playing either, that leaves Cox, Patterson (hasn't looked right this season), Strain...Heckel's time to shine might be here. Maybe move Miles Scott to Nickel even more play Resetich. I would guess we try to play ball control if possible bc Scott being out significantly hampers our ability to cover their receivers.
 
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