Pregame: Illinois at Indiana, Saturday, September 20th, 6:30pm CT, NBC

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#758      
That’s Kenenna Odeluga
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(No offense to Kennena)
 
#760      
Up to now I was treating this as a make or break game for the playoffs, but maybe not.
It’s reasonable to assume Indiana is the second best team on our schedule this year, and this is an away game. If this is a tight game, even if we lose, there are ways we still make the playoffs. For example , what if our only other loss is a close game to OSU, while Indiana gets clobbered by Oregon and PSU? Who’s to say our resume isn’t better? We are both 10-2 and they had home field advantage for the head to head game.
Of course I’m hoping for an Illinois victory. I’m just thinking there is still everything to play for no matter the result.
 
#762      
This is a lazy and inaccurate take for a couple reasons.

(1) The Kansas OC from 2023 is the Penn State OC from 2024. You can't say Illinois struggles against 2023 Kansas offensive scheme while also saying 2024 Penn State offensive scheme is easier for Illinois to face. They are the same scheme with different players.
(2) Nebraska threw the ball a lot more than Indiana last year. I'm sure the knee-jerk reaction here will be to look at Indiana's passing yards, which are more, but we aren't arguing offensive success. You are arguing offensive scheme.


Indiana's offense is explosive! But that doesn't imply that they are one of the teams with the most spread offenses in the country or that they stretch out defenses in a way that other schemes cannot. Too many folks assume spread = points.

James Franklin is far more conservative than Cig when it comes to offense even taking Kansas OC. And you are correct spread doesn’t mean pass pass pass. A lot of offenses like that struggle like Mike Leach did at MS State. And Illinois handled that offense pretty good in the bowl game even if they didn’t win.

It’s more the diversity and execution of the attack and Indiana has that where most other Big 10 teams just play grind it out time of possession football.
 
#763      
Need Jacas to force a strip sack and the dline to generate pressure
Negative waves! 😄. If Jacas gets one, our chances of winning are very good. But we can win even if he doesn't get one.
(I agree that the DLine does "need" to generate pressure.
 
#767      
Kansas pulled some serious gamesmanship also for the start of 2023. In June, they changed their first to games from Saturdays to Friday nights.

Week prior to Kansas, Illinois played Toledo on Saturday at night. Luke’s second college start; the first at Illinois.

Kansas got full week of practice and home night game.

Illini got a shortened week of prep and road game.

You’ll recall that Manny tried to pull same kind of move for this year. Moved his opener up two days to a Thursday. Coach B was able to mitigate a bit by moving his opener to Friday. Duke still got more days of prep. Illini still had to travel.
 
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Kansas pulled some serious gamesmanship also for the start of 2023. In June, they changed their first to games from Saturdays to Friday nights.

Week prior to Kansas, Illinois played Toledo on Saturday at night. Luke’s second college start; the first at Illinois.

Kansas got full week of practice and home night game.

Illini got a shortened week of prep and road game.

You’ll recall that Manny tried to pull same kind of move for this year. Moved his opener up two days to a Thursday. Coach B was able to mitigate a bit by moving his opener to Friday. Duke still got more days of prep. Illini still had to travel.
Indiana does get a 0 day advantage of prep here having played Friday night last week instead of Saturday
 
#770      
Feel like the Illini have a good chance if it is a 1 score game going into the 4th quarter. Feel like Indiana will come out with a big punch on offense and defense in the first quarter and if Illinois weathers the storm then they will be in it until the end. If I was a betting man I think Illinois on the money line makes more sense then against the spread as I don't see many outcomes where they lose by less than a touchdown.
 
#772      
From Grok:

This shapes up as a defensive slugfest turning into a late shootout, with Indiana’s home-field edge and passing game (Mendoza’s efficiency) wearing down Illinois’ secondary. Illinois keeps it close with their ground control (164.7 rush yards/game), but turnovers and Indiana’s pass defense (elite through 3 weeks) seal it. Expect the Over to hit in a high-stakes Big Ten night game.

Predicted Final Score: Indiana 31, Illinois 24

Not the in depth analysis I would expect.
 
#773      
So we have our offense, defense, special teams. But what I am looking forward to is BB's head games. He did a little at Duke. He did a lot against South Carolina.
By now Cigs has to know about this fourth dimension of our game. It will be interesting to see how Cigs counters this.
 
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From Grok:

This shapes up as a defensive slugfest turning into a late shootout, with Indiana’s home-field edge and passing game (Mendoza’s efficiency) wearing down Illinois’ secondary. Illinois keeps it close with their ground control (164.7 rush yards/game), but turnovers and Indiana’s pass defense (elite through 3 weeks) seal it. Expect the Over to hit in a high-stakes Big Ten night game.

Predicted Final Score: Indiana 31, Illinois 24

Not the in depth analysis I would expect.
Is this supposed to be snark? Depth of analysis with Grok?
 
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