Pregame: Illinois at Northwestern, Saturday, February 13th, 7:00pm CT, BTN

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Obviously I'd want us to go to the tournament every year, I'm just saying it would be fun if Northwestern also became competitive in the B1G. It would be nice if it could turn into something similar to the IU-Purdue rivalry. I think it would be good for the state.

It wouldn't be good for us. You want them competing head to head on every recruit we want in the state, and winning their share - or more? I don't. This has more or less already happened in football and there is no way it's beneficial to U of I. What would be best for us is if they are terrible forever. We don't need a rival in-state, we have plenty of traditional big ten rivals.
 
#52      
It wouldn't be good for us. You want them competing head to head on every recruit we want in the state, and winning their share - or more? I don't. This has more or less already happened in football and there is no way it's beneficial to U of I. What would be best for us is if they are terrible forever. We don't need a rival in-state, we have plenty of traditional big ten rivals.

Plenty of Big Ten rivals? Like who?
 
#55      
Plenty of Big Ten rivals? Like who?

I consider Indiana, Purdue, Iowa, Michigan State, Wisconsin among others to be bigger B1G rivals in basketball than NW.

I do consider NW to be a football rivalry, but have never thought of them the same way in basketball. I have always thought of them as a should be "W" in basketball.
 
#57      
I consider Indiana, Purdue, Iowa, Michigan State, Wisconsin among others to be bigger B1G rivals in basketball than NW.

I do consider NW to be a football rivalry, but have never thought of them the same way in basketball. I have always thought of them as a should be "W" in basketball.

I have just always felt that NW was kind of a natural rival due to them being in the same state but besides Indiana I've never really thought of any of those other schools as a real rival in basketball. That doesn't mean I like them though :thumb:
 
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I have just always felt that NW was kind of a natural rival due to them being in the same state but besides Indiana I've never really thought of any of those other schools as a real rival in basketball. That doesn't mean I like them though :thumb:

We don't have a real "rivalry" because NW has been just terrible in both sports for most of the modern era. Then Barnett happened in football, but the rivalry never really developed because when they were good, we were bad and vice versa. So there really has never been any meaningful game played between the two schools with anything at stake.

For hoops OTOH, we had a really intense rivalry with Iowa, Indiana and Michigan in the 80s. Michigan was always hated by everyone in the B1G and we hated them more because of Bo Schembechler and his efforts to get us in trouble with the conference and NCAA in the early 80s. Indiana was a rival because of the feuding between Henson and Knight, who many suspected of being involved in the NCAA witch hunt in the late 80s. I'd hope that I don't have to mention why Iowa was included. :) Those were great times because (IMO) the 80s thorough the mid 90s were the absolute pinnacle of college hoops. There were some early entrants to the NBA, but many of the top players stayed at least 3 years, so the talent playing was really, really good. Since then it's dropped way off with so many kids leaving after a year.

We also have always had a good rivalry with Purdue because we're close geographically and have always been battling with them for the lead in Big Ten wins, titles and they are one of the few B1G programs we have a losing record against.

More recently we had a solid rivalry with MSU and Wisconsin because that 3some was the best of the league in the early 2000s. They've both been able to remain up there while of course we've dropped back.

The rest of the conference doesn't really measure up as rivals, IMO. For some reason Ohio St doesn't seem to have ever been much of a rivalry in hoops. Historically we've dominated the series by a surprising margin. More recently, they've dominated us, but it seems to me their fans just don't have much passion for hoops and that impacts any feelings of rivalry there.
 
#59      
That's a winner!!
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We don't have a real "rivalry" because NW has been just terrible in both sports for most of the modern era. Then Barnett happened in football, but the rivalry never really developed because when they were good, we were bad and vice versa. So there really has never been any meaningful game played between the two schools with anything at stake.

For hoops OTOH, we had a really intense rivalry with Iowa, Indiana and Michigan in the 80s. Michigan was always hated by everyone in the B1G and we hated them more because of Bo Schembechler and his efforts to get us in trouble with the conference and NCAA in the early 80s. Indiana was a rival because of the feuding between Henson and Knight, who many suspected of being involved in the NCAA witch hunt in the late 80s. I'd hope that I don't have to mention why Iowa was included. :) Those were great times because (IMO) the 80s thorough the mid 90s were the absolute pinnacle of college hoops. There were some early entrants to the NBA, but many of the top players stayed at least 3 years, so the talent playing was really, really good. Since then it's dropped way off with so many kids leaving after a year.

We also have always had a good rivalry with Purdue because we're close geographically and have always been battling with them for the lead in Big Ten wins, titles and they are one of the few B1G programs we have a losing record against.

More recently we had a solid rivalry with MSU and Wisconsin because that 3some was the best of the league in the early 2000s. They've both been able to remain up there while of course we've dropped back.

The rest of the conference doesn't really measure up as rivals, IMO. For some reason Ohio St doesn't seem to have ever been much of a rivalry in hoops. Historically we've dominated the series by a surprising margin. More recently, they've dominated us, but it seems to me their fans just don't have much passion for hoops and that impacts any feelings of rivalry there.

That's a great summary. 2% post here.
 
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Yep I remember that game. Afterwards most of us in the post game thread were wondering why Groce didn't press sooner. I think it was 2 years ago.

No that was late in the Weber era. In fact it was Wayne McClain's idea.
 
#61      
For some reason I have a hard time visualizing a team of MM, MH, Finke, JCL and Tate pressing, when they have a hard time guarding statutes.:)
 
#63      
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...re-the-top-players-in-america-on-losing-teams

This is actually more fitting for a 2015-2016 Illini basketball team, but I didn't see a forum for that....

Malcolm making an al"L American" team!

Not what we'd like to see, but it really is some good recognition for him!
I saw this the other day.

I'm glad for the recognition for a really hard worker. I liked to hear Malcolm's quotes as well. I think they're telling in that these injuries have not left the remainder of the team unscathed.
 
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Kendrick Nunn said his hip is feeling better after a few days off. He and Hill both say huge minutes aren't an issue.

Nunn also said his shooting percentages have gone down due to him forcing bad shots. Watched a lot of film on that recently.

Jalen Coleman-Lands said he feels comfortable as lead guard. Trying to be more multi dimensional, attack off dribble, in mid range.

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We don't have a real "rivalry" because NW has been just terrible in both sports for most of the modern era. Then Barnett happened in football, but the rivalry never really developed because when they were good, we were bad and vice versa. So there really has never been any meaningful game played between the two schools with anything at stake.

For hoops OTOH, we had a really intense rivalry with Iowa, Indiana and Michigan in the 80s. Michigan was always hated by everyone in the B1G and we hated them more because of Bo Schembechler and his efforts to get us in trouble with the conference and NCAA in the early 80s. Indiana was a rival because of the feuding between Henson and Knight, who many suspected of being involved in the NCAA witch hunt in the late 80s. I'd hope that I don't have to mention why Iowa was included. :) Those were great times because (IMO) the 80s thorough the mid 90s were the absolute pinnacle of college hoops. There were some early entrants to the NBA, but many of the top players stayed at least 3 years, so the talent playing was really, really good. Since then it's dropped way off with so many kids leaving after a year.

We also have always had a good rivalry with Purdue because we're close geographically and have always been battling with them for the lead in Big Ten wins, titles and they are one of the few B1G programs we have a losing record against.

More recently we had a solid rivalry with MSU and Wisconsin because that 3some was the best of the league in the early 2000s. They've both been able to remain up there while of course we've dropped back.

The rest of the conference doesn't really measure up as rivals, IMO. For some reason Ohio St doesn't seem to have ever been much of a rivalry in hoops. Historically we've dominated the series by a surprising margin. More recently, they've dominated us, but it seems to me their fans just don't have much passion for hoops and that impacts any feelings of rivalry there.

Pretty much sums up my feelings too. I wouldn't hardly give Northwestern a second thought, except I went to grad school there. :D

On that note, I actually got an invitation through the NU club of Portland to watch the game at Blitz 99 in Tigard. They invited the Illinois club to watch the game with them. Maybe it's because of the distance from C-U, but I think any 'Rivalry' there is on the friendly side. On a side side note, I didn't even know there was an Illini club in Portland. Not sure how many PDX Illini we have but is there an Illini bar out here? Is anybody else headed to Blitz 99?
 
#66      
Really want to win this game. I won't be able to take the articles the Chicago press spits out if Illinois loses to the Mildcats.
 
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Groce: With the bye week, we shortened what we did physically. Watched a lot of film, shooting and non-contact stuff.

Groce: Goal was to get our bodies and minds right heading into tomorrow night's game.

Groce: Guys seemed excited and a little more bouncy today with their bodies fresh.

Groce: With Northwestern, it starts with their guards in McIntosh & Demps. Some depth w/ bigs. Team shoots the three well.

Groce: Nothing has changed with Mike Thorne. Still out indefinitely at this juncture.

Groce: Mike Thorne has been doing "some segments" of practice recently.

Groce: At this point in the season, teams are who you are. Have to get better at what you do. More effort, focus & sustainability

Groce: D.J. Williams has practiced very well. He's had a really good week. Probably had his best day yesterday.

Groce: Bye week was good for Nunn & Finke. Appreciate them playing dinged up. They're getting better. Important for us going forward

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#70      
I'm going to New Orleans tomorrow and wanted to know if there are any good places to watch the game in the French Quarter area?
 
#71      
Tampa, FL
Awesome to hear that DJ seems to be building on the momentum after he had a solid outing last weekend.
 
#73      
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Well... so much for Andrew the Moose's tweet about a hot take at Popeyes regarding Thorne's return. Another insider debunked! :)
 
#74      
Awesome to hear that DJ seems to be building on the momentum after he had a solid outing last weekend.
Absolutely! I loved it when DJW took over for a few minutes. He scored, rebounded, brought the ball up the floor, brought energy and even when he got that block I was happy, even though it ended up going to an open shooter for a 3, just an unfortunate bounce.
 
#75      
Pretty much sums up my feelings too. I wouldn't hardly give Northwestern a second thought, except I went to grad school there. :D

On that note, I actually got an invitation through the NU club of Portland to watch the game at Blitz 99 in Tigard. They invited the Illinois club to watch the game with them. Maybe it's because of the distance from C-U, but I think any 'Rivalry' there is on the friendly side. On a side side note, I didn't even know there was an Illini club in Portland. Not sure how many PDX Illini we have but is there an Illini bar out here? Is anybody else headed to Blitz 99?

I can't make it to Blitz 99 and don't know of an Illini bar in PDX (or nearby). I did attend some UofI games at the Rose Garden over the past few years and bought the tickets through the PDX Illini club. Poor seats but it was fun being in a group of Illini instead of with the Ducks faithful.
 
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