Pregame: Illinois vs BYU (United Center), Saturday, December 17th, 8:30pm CT, BTN

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Tate wrote about Kipper being ready to go vs BYU. Had this to say:

"Nichols appears to be blocked by Black, Hill and others at his natural forward position. But if he is sound defensively, that skill might earn valuable minutes while the regulars rest. Or he might challenge Jalen Coleman-Lands if the versatile Hill isn’t stressed by the defensive assignment at 2-guard."

If Kip and Malcolm are on the floor together, is kip capable of guarding the 2 so Malcolm can guard the 3, or is kip more of a 3/4 defender like black? I think Tate brings up a good point that Malcolm could have some trouble guarding 2s.
 
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In today's world of position less basketball, it is not out of the question that we see Black, Hill and Nichols on the floor at the same. Something to watch for Saturday night.
 
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kuhl84

Orlando, FL
If Kip and Malcolm are on the floor together, is kip capable of guarding the 2 so Malcolm can guard the 3, or is kip more of a 3/4 defender like black? I think Tate brings up a good point that Malcolm could have some trouble guarding 2s.

I don't know if Kipper can guard the 2 or not (practice reports say he can), but my biggest take away from the CMU game was that MH can.

There were several possessions that he guarded one of the 2 small dynamic scorers. Hill was clearly the most effective on the ball defender against them that day. I don't know if it is in the best interest of the team for him to guard 2's for long stretches of the game, but he is definitely capable.

My hope is that eventually 3 of Kipper, Hill, Black, and DJW play for long stretches of the game with TA at PG. This would keep TA from playing the 2, limiting minutes for Tate at the 1.
 
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I don't know if Kipper can guard the 2 or not (practice reports say he can), but my biggest take away from the CMU game was that MH can.

There were several possessions that he guarded one of the 2 small dynamic scorers. Hill was clearly the most effective on the ball defender against them that day. I don't know if it is in the best interest of the team for him to guard 2's for long stretches of the game, but he is definitely capable.

My hope is that eventually 3 of Kipper, Hill, Black, and DJW play for long stretches of the game with TA at PG. This would keep TA from playing the 2, limiting minutes for Tate at the 1.

DJW seems a ways from PT right now.

Having another guy who takes pride in defense would be great to have. I think our post defense is just going to be a weakness we'll have to live with, but I think we could see noticeable improvements otherwise.
 
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BananaShampoo

Captain 'Paign
Phoenix, AZ
I feel ya. :(

I used to get so mad when people would say, "I don't care about rankings!" or, "We lose whenever we're ranked, I'd prefer we weren't ranked and stayed hungry!" during the 2009-2013 stretch when it seemed like we'd always climb in at least once (only to finish outside of them). I definitely care about rankings. Not only is it a sense of pride to be a fixture in the top 25, you get more coverage on virtually every sports site anywhere, people who hadn't heard much about your team yet just assume you're good (which is great for perception) and I honestly believe it plays a huge (if subconscious) role in the committee's Tournament seeding. Gimme that beautiful number next to "ILLINOIS" seven days a week and twice on Sunday!
I'm with ya. People that don't want us to be ranked are basically saying they don't want us to be good. Well, I guess they got their wish! I'll personally hope we get back to the days when we were ranked consistently and fighting for B1G championships and high tourney seeds. :thumb:
 
#182      

Dan

Admin
Groce previews BYU

https://twitter.com/DPiperScout

Groce: Had a really, really good week. Had a lot of energy. Team takes more & more accountability.

Groce: Younger guys are picking it up.

Groce: Been shorter to get guys out of here to work on finals. We've focused on ourselves.

Groce: Eric Mika is as good of a frontcourt player as we've played. Can really pass, score, dribble. Terrific player.

Groce: Haws and Emery are guys who can get you for 20 on any given night.

Groce: These guys are men & they play like men. Going to be a great challenge for us & one we're looking forward to.

Groce: Obviously, can't control the game times. We've got to roll when they tell us to roll.

Groce on Kipper: Put some thought into a plan for him. We've got a rotation that's starting to get solidified up front.

Groce on Kipper: He's got to bring consistent effort & motor every day. Like most freshman, haven't always gotten that.

Groce on Kipper: We are counting on him to bring that every day. His versatility is his gift. He can guard different guys, rebounds

Groce: A lot of young guys think that playing well is making baskets. Not just about that.

Groce: It's terrific to bring ILL basketball into Chicago fans' living room. We love going up there. Great experience for players.

Groce: Tomorrow will be a good test for our defense. Good personnel, well-coached.
 
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I don't know if Kipper can guard the 2 or not (practice reports say he can), but my biggest take away from the CMU game was that MH can.

There were several possessions that he guarded one of the 2 small dynamic scorers. Hill was clearly the most effective on the ball defender against them that day. I don't know if it is in the best interest of the team for him to guard 2's for long stretches of the game, but he is definitely capable.

My hope is that eventually 3 of Kipper, Hill, Black, and DJW play for long stretches of the game with TA at PG. This would keep TA from playing the 2, limiting minutes for Tate at the 1.

Malcolm switching on to guarding Keene really was a great adjustment. Malcolm shut hime down
 
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TownieMatt

CU Expat
Chicago
Groce previews BYU

https://twitter.com/DPiperScout

Groce on Kipper: Put some thought into a plan for him. We've got a rotation that's starting to get solidified up front.

Groce on Kipper: He's got to bring consistent effort & motor every day. Like most freshman, haven't always gotten that.

Groce on Kipper: We are counting on him to bring that every day. His versatility is his gift. He can guard different guys, rebounds

From this I doubt Kipper sees much PT. Though he doesn't look like it, we have to remember that he's never played in a college game before. Can't just toss him into the deep end.
 
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Illini1221

Peru,IL
From this I doubt Kipper sees much PT. Though he doesn't look like it, we have to remember that he's never played in a college game before. Can't just toss him into the deep end.

Especially against a good team like BYU. I almost wish they had one more cupcake game to allow Kipper to get into the flow a little bit. It would be tough to expect a lot of him in his first few games, especially against quality teams and a rivalry game.
 
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whovous

Washington, DC
From this I doubt Kipper sees much PT. Though he doesn't look like it, we have to remember that he's never played in a college game before. Can't just toss him into the deep end.

I'd like to see him on the court in both halves for a total of 5-8 minutes, but I can imagine a million reasons why that might not happen.
 
#188      

Trakis

Chicago, IL
May have been asked earlier in this thread, but do you guys think they'll be serving beer at the game? Can't remember if the UC has in previous years.
 
#191      
Illinois is a 2.5 pt fav. O/U is an interesting 159.5. That's a lot of points.
 
#192      
Illinois is a 2.5 pt fav. O/U is an interesting 159.5. That's a lot of points.

It is but per KenPom BYU is third in the country in tempo. KenPom also predicts an 81-80 Illini victory. So at least according to his formula the O/U is reasonable.
 
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UofIChE06

Pittsburgh
It is but per KenPom BYU is third in the country in tempo. KenPom also predicts an 81-80 Illini victory. So at least according to his formula the O/U is reasonable.

That new advanced stats page that was posted has it 80-79 BYU so also pretty close on the O/U
 
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Especially against a good team like BYU. I almost wish they had one more cupcake game to allow Kipper to get into the flow a little bit. It would be tough to expect a lot of him in his first few games, especially against quality teams and a rivalry game.

Mizzou is terrible. In theory there should be some opportunities to get him on the court, but as we know it will probably be an unnecessarily tight game. That, and Groce hasn't exactly exhibited a willingness to divvy out too many minutes to our young guys in blowouts, at least not consistently.
 
#197      
Basketball band not making the trip.

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The Fighting Illini Basketball Band will not be making the trip to the @UnitedCenter due to weather! All the best to @IlliniMBB
 
#198      

BlindLoyalty

FartNoiseMotivation
Basketball band not making the trip.

Marching Illini‏ @MarchingIllini
The Fighting Illini Basketball Band will not be making the trip to the @UnitedCenter due to weather! All the best to @IlliniMBB

There are going to be tumbleweeds inside the UC. Producer/Director certainly will be ordered by the BTN --> "no crowd shots." Late start, bad weather and morgue-like atmosphere could be a recipe for an upset.
 
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Joel Goodson

respect my decision™
There are going to be tumbleweeds inside the UC. Producer/Director certainly will be ordered by the BTN --> "no crowd shots." Late start, bad weather and morgue-like atmosphere could be a recipe for an upset.

Lots of built-in excuses, yes. Team needs to be laser focused on the game and ignore stuff out of their control. Which is true for all games. If someone isn't playing well, at least we have depth now. Critical game, as I'm sure the team is acutely aware.
 
#200      
There are going to be tumbleweeds inside the UC. Producer/Director certainly will be ordered by the BTN --> "no crowd shots." Late start, bad weather and morgue-like atmosphere could be a recipe for an upset.

It's the same for both teams, so I don't think that's accurate. They need to show up to play, and then play!
 
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