Pregame: Illinois vs Colgate, Friday, November 14th, 8:00pm CT, B1G+
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I have been saying this for a while now. We do not need to have anyone averaging over 30 minutes a game. We have the depth to play 8-9 guys solid minutes.
If everyone is healthy, we have the depth to play 8 guys solid minutes. I really don't include Davis because there's a pretty big dropoff with him. Also not including Ty because I'm guessing he won't play this year.
Just hope we have the top 8 guys healthy for the last half of the season.
Again, I don’t know what your point is. I admitted the bold in one of my posts above.
This (the one you attached) is not the original post that people started to respond to. I cannot find said post. But it said “Playable?”. And the poster did not specifically say TT. Of course, I could be wrong, but that is how I remember it. I wish I could find that post. And after that “Playable?” post, people started criticizing that comment. And that post was before the post you refer to.
And again, the main point is that he did not say AS was unplayable. He just speculated that he might be. But it seems that most, if not all, the responses did not make that distinction and, in fact, were chiding him about being saying AS was unplayable, as in “you said he was unplayable, after TT that is a bad take” (more concisely though), and that is not what he said. I think most people did not know about the distinction, but just assumed he/she said AS was unplayable.
This (the one you attached) is not the original post that people started to respond to. I cannot find said post. But it said “Playable?”. And the poster did not specifically say TT. Of course, I could be wrong, but that is how I remember it. I wish I could find that post. And after that “Playable?” post, people started criticizing that comment. And that post was before the post you refer to.
And again, the main point is that he did not say AS was unplayable. He just speculated that he might be. But it seems that most, if not all, the responses did not make that distinction and, in fact, were chiding him about being saying AS was unplayable, as in “you said he was unplayable, after TT that is a bad take” (more concisely though), and that is not what he said. I think most people did not know about the distinction, but just assumed he/she said AS was unplayable.
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skyIdub
"I can't tell you. Secret."
Here are some of the comments after the TT win in regards to “unplayable”.
"I’m old enough to remember when Andre Stojakovic was considered “not playable.”
“stojakovic is unplayable”
"I never want to see 'unplayable' and Stojakovic in the same sentence ever again.
"That moron who posted that is going to be legendary.
It doesn’t matter whether he said something about being unplayable only in the TT game or not. The fact is, he/she never said it. He/she just speculated. And now, especially the last post, which is pretty harsh, he/she is tagged with having said “unplayable” when in fact he speculated. I keep emphasizing that because you don’t seem to get it. All the comments above are wrong because no one, absolutely no one, said he was unplayable. So, in effect, those comments actually don’t make any sense because they refer to something that did not happen. There was no moron.
In other words, this poster is being criticized for something he/she did not say.
"I’m old enough to remember when Andre Stojakovic was considered “not playable.”
“stojakovic is unplayable”
"I never want to see 'unplayable' and Stojakovic in the same sentence ever again.
"That moron who posted that is going to be legendary.
It doesn’t matter whether he said something about being unplayable only in the TT game or not. The fact is, he/she never said it. He/she just speculated. And now, especially the last post, which is pretty harsh, he/she is tagged with having said “unplayable” when in fact he speculated. I keep emphasizing that because you don’t seem to get it. All the comments above are wrong because no one, absolutely no one, said he was unplayable. So, in effect, those comments actually don’t make any sense because they refer to something that did not happen. There was no moron.
In other words, this poster is being criticized for something he/she did not say.
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I haven’t been tracking closely — where’s this about Ty not playing coming from? Just a hunch, or based on strong tea leaves?
I see the reasoning for him taking a medical redshirt but hope he doesn’t. We lamented not having his tenacity at multiple points last year. He has his warts but I’d rather have him ready to go and available as we push to go as high as a team can go (natty).
Positive news. Glad Lee is getting closer as well.
Man, I would love to see this team at 100% soon. Gonna be fun to watch.
He might be ready to come back in a couple months, but he may decide it's not worth burning the year for an abbreviated season. He can get a med RS for this year and still have 2 more to play. His decision.
Eh, when I said I wasn't sure he was playable doesn't mean I thought he was unplayable, I had my doubts he'd be ready and posted as such, which I further clarified in my follow-up a few comments down in that thread. I'm glad he worked out the kinks in those four days, but people really have run with the whole "unplayable" thing when the word "unplayable" never appeared in my comments, and to say I literally said something I literally did not say is what the other user's pointing out as a misrepresentation.
After that game Brad pretty clearly mentioned the potential issues I had brought up and after this game even said he didn't expect to play Andrej as much as he did.
He just has very long run ons on the podcast.
Some time last season, Brad mentioned there was some minor discussion on should Jason still redshirt when the team was hurting for bodies. I don't remember if it was Jason who suggested it or the staff but Brad had said it wouldn't be fair to him to have him give up his redshirt and waste a year of eligibility. I wonder if a similar thing is going on now in which Ty very much wants to play this season but it wouldn't be to his benefit to do so, and there's no harm in waiting to declare a redshirt season anyway, so they can keep waiting until he can play and then make a decision.
Let's be sure not to judge Petro's defense too quickly. It takes time to judge a player's defense. There is plenty of screening and switching. And we also have to remember Wagler is a true freshman, so we still have plenty of questions. I agree he has done well so far.
This game should be scheduled for tooth hurty.
I am sure there are 100 posters here that can answer this question immediately...but lacking that I will provide an answer. Since Ty has already taken a redshirt year, he cannot take another. Therefore, if he does not play this year, it is lost. Not sure if he could get a medical exemption for another year as it seems that can only be done by submitting the request after he runs out of eligibility and/or graduates. He has another season to play before that can be done. That is the best I can surmise from all information provided previously. You could try Google with various constructions of the question.
Ty already redshirted once. Doesn't it still take a special NCAA magic wand for a second redshirt year?
Yeah, seems like a few things could affect his decision. 1st, how ready does he feel? What if (heaven forbid) we have other injuries and we really need his contribution and he feels 100% healthy?
If our top 8 guys are all 100% healthy later in the season, it seems we may not "need" him this year. You've got Kylan, Petrovic, Keagan, Stojokovich, Mirk, Ben, Tom, and Z. If healthy those 8 will be pretty established in the rotation and take the lion's share of the minutes. Lee, Davis, and JJ much fewer minutes, but probably also contribute.
skyIdub
"I can't tell you. Secret."
Lmao...dude own it! It's literally one of the best things on the board this year!! Instant classic!
In fact, I would double down! Then he might go for 30 vs. Alabama! Wield your power!!
Battle89
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I may or may not agree with all you write, but you have consistently stood up and owned that original post, first in the TT game thread, later in the postgame and now here. Good on ya for sticking around through an absolute avalanche of snark, you reacted better than I would have.
Edit: Exhibit A Your Honor
I don't remember the details of the answer as clearly as I once recalled them, but I am moderately sure that the only time you can take two redshirts is when they are both medical redshirts. There have been sixth year players in the past even without the whole COVID year option.
skyIdub
"I can't tell you. Secret."
It’s been said that Ty will be out for a while still.
Lee should get double digit minutes once he returns.
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