Pregame: Illinois vs Iowa State, Thursday, March 28th, 9:09pm CT, TBS

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Cyclones by 18, BET! Can't stand ISU. They seem like they can't take what they dish out, aka punks. We'll see who bullies who at the hut.
 
#203      
Man...enough with the Coleman criticism.

He chirps and complains about calls more than anyone I've seen for us but if that's what it takes for him to get himself into the game, so be it. He's backing it up with his play and leadership.

At this point he's an Illini lifer, helped take us farther than we've been in almost 20 years. We need him to play with an edge, he is who he is and we just gotta live with it and appreciate it.
I'm a big Coleman fan, but I actually think when he is playing with focused aggression he excels. Once he starts gesturing to refs and focusing on what isn't happening for him he falls apart. Last night he came out on fire against Duquesne and was playing to the crowd and his team. Once they got him focused on the refs and the physicality he stopped being the same positive version of himself.

That tends to be how it works for CH, it isn't playing with emotion that's the issue, it's how he manifests it.
 
#206      

80'sIllini

Arizona
They're the best statistically(KP #2 behind Houston) but the Illini have had success scoring on basically everyone.

Tennessee is the #3 and we scored 79 on the road in a game we didn't play well. Rutgers is #4 and the Illini put up 76 and 86. Scored 71(without Shannon) and 80 on #8 MSU, and 67(without Shannon) and 85 on #12 Maryland who was ranked much higher defensively before a slide in March.

Iowa st is 5-6 when they allow a team to score 70+ and two of those wins were DePaul and New Hampshire.

I don't think they have the offense to run away from us so I think the Illini should at least be able to hang around long enough to get hot and go on a run like they tend to do.
A big key to winning the game is not turning the ball over against their traps and not having their defense keep us from getting into our half-court offense until < than 10 seconds to go on the shot clock. I'm not gonna dredge up the whole " we don't have a conventional PG" conversation but we have to avoid having 15+ TO's against their ball pressure and punish them when we do break down their initial pressure. Getting stops on D followed by securing the defensive rebound and getting out on the fast break before they can even set up their defense( hello TSJ) will obviously be important. I like our chances and then on to U.Conn.
 
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I'm a big Coleman fan, but I actually think when he is playing with focused aggression he excels. Once he starts gesturing to refs and focusing on what isn't happening for him he falls apart. Last night he came out on fire against Duquesne and was playing to the crowd and his team. Once they got him focused on the refs and the physicality he stopped being the same positive version of himself.

That tends to be how it works for CH, it isn't playing with emotion that's the issue, it's how he manifests it.
I agree completely. Needs to stay focused.

Also, he has hit them but he's also a much better shooter when he steps in and toes the line. Sometimes he will kind of drift too deep and make shots too difficult.
 
#208      
IL has the best player ( and maybe 2 best players) in this game. They are beating Iowa State. Not saying it will be a walk but they are winning the game.
 
#209      

lstewart53x3

Scottsdale, Arizona
Pretty wild stat.

If you sort T-Rank from Feb 27 until yesterday’s game, Duquesne, during their 9 game winning streak, was #33 overall and #5 on defense.

So we just put up 89 points in 61 possessions against an elite defense.

On the season, BYU has the #13 offense, yet was only able to put up 67 against the same team.

Iowa St has another elite defense, but I don’t see any way this game gets played in the 60s.
 
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The Galloping Ghost

Washington, DC
When we fired Bruce, Jay Wright was my dream hire. His style of ball felt like the solution to dealing with the blue bloods and their talent discrepancy. That we are now implementing his brand of basketball with incredible results makes me feel like I got my wish.

"Booty ball, a skilled center and Villanova with pace. That can win in March and April."

Indeed.
 
#215      
This game will be a really good test for Brad and staff schematically

We do not have good ball handlers and Iowa State is going to pressure and double the ball off all the high ball screens- we need something schematically to beat that- if this is “let Marcus dribble out of it” we’re in trouble, we’ll need to move the ball quicker than they can double and get it to the open shooter- WSU did this well to start the game but couldn’t keep it up as the game wore on

I’ll be really interested to see what the staff cooks up- maybe Coleman handles the ball more up top to relieve the pressure and pass over it, maybe we slip some screens and more cuts to the basket, but whatever we do - we can’t dribble too much against this D
 
#216      
don’t discount the possibility that the TSJ situation bonded this team and gave them an us against the world mentality. This is has been an extraordinary season so you can throw the “team never did this with kenpom defense rank like Illini” stuff out the window. The last 10 games show that we are now playing D when we need to. The only loss was Purdue and that was an L more because the offense down not the D. And it was Purdue.
 
#217      
Iowa state fan here. I hope you are all smart enough to realize the majority of cyclone fans don't think we are winning this game easily. I expect a hard fought game that could go either way. If we play offensively like we did against wsu we probably lose this game by 10 points. If we play offensively like we did in Kansas city i don't think there are many teams who would stand a chance against us tbh other than uconn. Our defense will always be there. Which offense will show up? We will see. We won't be caught off guard by Shannon. He was in the big 12. We know how good he is. Gonna be a fun game.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
When we fired Bruce, Jay Wright was my dream hire. His style of ball felt like the solution to dealing with the blue bloods and their talent discrepancy. That we are now implementing his brand of basketball with incredible results makes me feel like I got my wish.

"Booty ball, a skilled center and Villanova with pace. That can win in March and April."

Indeed.
indeed

kudos to Brad for seeking advice from other coaches he’s friends with
 
#219      
FWIW, Duquesne was supposed to be a methodical, defensive/steal oriented team. Pretty similar profile as ISU, though they’ve been clearly better.

I think in March you see teams carried by whoever is the best player on the court. That’s TSJ in this game.
 
#220      
Man, I know folks feel good about this team and what they have accomplished so far (and rightfully so) but watch how Iowa State dismantled Houston recently. Nobody should be talking national championship yet. This Iowa State team is going to be a load. We will have to have our A game to win and I am hopeful Brad and Co. will have them prepared.
 
#221      
Iowa state fan here. I hope you are all smart enough to realize the majority of cyclone fans don't think we are winning this game easily. I expect a hard fought game that could go either way. If we play offensively like we did against wsu we probably lose this game by 10 points. If we play offensively like we did in Kansas city i don't think there are many teams who would stand a chance against us tbh other than uconn. Our defense will always be there. Which offense will show up? We will see. We won't be caught off guard by Shannon. He was in the big 12. We know how good he is. Gonna be a fun game.
iowa state will be a good opponent no doubt, but TSJ is on a whole different level now than when he was a good role player on Texas Tech in the big 12. he is a bona-fide superstar now and no amount of film-watching can prepare you for his in-game speed
 
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#222      
Man, I know folks feel good about this team and what they have accomplished so far (and rightfully so) but watch how Iowa State dismantled Houston recently. Nobody should be talking national championship yet. This Iowa State team is going to be a load. We will have to have our A game to win and I am hopeful Brad and Co. will have them prepared.
That game has question marks to me as in how invested was Houston knowing they had a 1 seed wrapped up and J'Wan Roberts nursing an injury. And it is just one game. Should we judge Iowa St from their slow start yesterday or losing to Kansas St a couple of weeks ago also?

And we as fans can talk about national championship all we want.
 
#223      

ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
All the hype is around an elite offense versus an elite defense, understandably.

But to me, this game comes down to the other end of the floor. If our size and defensive execution can force ISU to be ordinary on offense as they often are, that should generate enough missed shots that turn into runouts ahead of their defense that allow us to pile up a point total they will have a very difficult time matching.

If our bend-but-don't-break passivity on D lets them play comfortable and into whatever matchups they want among their varied group of scorers, they're going to be able to bottle us up enough at the other end to send us packing.

We showed a lot of promising signs on this front yesterday, but ISU ain't Duquesne.
 
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Noblesville Illini

Nappanee, IN
TSJ is gonna TSJ and Domask is going to Domask. Coleman might be the x-factor. Really need him to stop chirping and just play basketball. ISU is going to bump, push, and grab a lot. He needs to be mentally ready to not get calls.
And Brad needs to be in the stripes ears 15 minutes before the game. Don’t need to repeat the Washington 2nd round debacle because of refs’ ‘interests’ on the side. See a legit foul, call it! Don’t let us get trucked and then call the foul on us. Seen that all year with Edey.
 
#225      
Man, I know folks feel good about this team and what they have accomplished so far (and rightfully so) but watch how Iowa State dismantled Houston recently. Nobody should be talking national championship yet. This Iowa State team is going to be a load. We will have to have our A game to win and I am hopeful Brad and Co. will have them prepared.
That's what fans do. Of course beating Iowa State would be a huge accomplishment. They've been as good as any team in the country the last few weeks. IMO they should have been a #1 seed.
 
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