Hope so. He didn't have any Off. rebounds in the last game and only one rebound overall.
Pregame: Illinois vs Iowa State, Thursday, March 28th, 9:09pm CT, TBS
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My grandfather was in his class in high school. I'm not from Taylorville myself, although somewhat nearby. I recall quite a few stories about that 45-0 team.
"Every time Illinois needed a steal and a bucket to stop the clock in those final frantic three minutes, Williams, Head and a big kid off the bench named Jack Ingram seemed to come up with one or both. And the partisan crowd, which has been so despondent, began to roar again, that deep desperate guttural sound of a crowd connected to the team and the moment. To the Wildcats' credit, they cut a six-point overtime deficit to one. And they had the final shot, which Adams missed. And in the bedlam, everybody knew they had seen something not just rare, but admirable, the tournament at its best, March at its absolute Maddest. The band played, the tears flowed. Explanations be damned."
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Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Yeah, I have lived in Chicago for four years and the assertion that there are more Notre Dame football fans than Illini football fans is - in my experience - a total myth. However, there are a ton of Notre Dame football fans. BASKETBALL, on the other hand, is a bewildering take to have ... I would wager that less than 25% of Chicago Area Notre Dame football fans cheer for their basketball team, and that might be generous. The Chicago Sun-Times did a poll last year of its readers' favorite college football team, and Illinois was ahead of Notre Dame (I cannot access the numbers). However, I remember seeing a poll about three years ago by the Tribune that had it at like 32% Illinois, 20% Notre Dame, 10% Northwestern and the rest was other (disproportionately other Big Ten schools, almost certainly).
It's really annoying when people perpetuate the myth that Illinois is not the most popular team here in BOTH sports (and EASILY for basketball), because it's just simply not true, haha.
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Lol, this is always one of the funniest self-fulfilling prophecies in Chicago, too. MSU fan goes to MSU bar with MSU grad friends and mysteriously gains the perception that he "sees at least as much MSU gear as Illini gear in Chicago!"
I think people also compare Chicago and the Illini to much smaller and less transplant-heavy cities like Detroit (Michigan/MSU), Des Moines (Iowa/ISU), Milwaukee (Wisconsin), Indianapolis (Indiana/Purdue), etc. and expect that kind of partisan loyalty from Chicago toward the Illini and are unimpressed when they don't see it ... but that's just not a reality for a city the size of Chicago. It's all a spectrum. Chicago supports the Illini significantly better than New York City supports any one school for any sport, but it obviously is not going to reach the levels you see in a smaller city like a Cleveland for Ohio State or something like that. Like, duh!Might have been addressed later in the thread, but it isn't the players so much. It's fans in LA getting a 4:00 start time and east time zone fans getting a 10:00 start time. Ridiculous! Now, I'm retired and a late night person anyway, but lots of folks aren't.
Orr was coaching Michigan when I was in HS. Taylorville had the first ever undefeated Prep team in Illinois I believe..... Great history!
wettsten
- Chicago
that 4 point win was the only matchup in which TSJ did not play. unless i missed something, it appears that TSJ has never lost to ISU in games in which he played (6). let's hope this trend continues.
"Up till midnight" - hah. Win or lose I will be wired for hours after that game. Fully expect to finally pass out at 4am.
USAFILLINI
- Florida
TSJs sophomore season was 20-21.
The season you are talking about, he didn't play in the game you guys beat them (51-47 at Ames), box score below The game you are trying to reference, TT had three guys in double figures and TSJ was just getting back into it after being out of the mix for three games and they won easily by 12.
What you did fail to mention was the 3rd game you faced them in the Big 12 Tournament where TT beat you by 31, and TSJ was the high scorer on the floor with 15.
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Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
Why not Thursday? Go Aztecs!
I think the one thing we can all agree on is this egotistical maniac must be stopped on Saturday. Hopefully by the orange and blue.
Epsilon
M tipping over
- Pdx
Whichever season it was, TSJ’s development here has been nothing short of remarkable. He is not the same player now as he was then, or even compared to last year for that matter. I don’t know who is going to win this upcoming game but if ISU holds TSJ to under 20 that would be considered “contained.”
At any rate I think this is the point in the tournament when things get really interesting. We’ve pretty much beaten everyone we should have this year, but have struggled in ultra top tier games. Really looking forward to the team testing its limits again.
The difference is in the last 6 games TSJ is imposing his will and dominating the game like he hasn’t before- if he does that again, we win, if he doesn’t, it will be a struggle
They don’t have anyone that can guard him 1-1 but they play really good team defense, TSJ will have to be smart on where he attacks
Yeah, this region is by far the toughest. Whoever comes out of it will be the most battle tested in this dance. Just wish it was Thursday night already!
I have two children, one went to Iowa State and one went (goes) to Iowa. No judgement please, I largely let them make their own choices and there were financial considerations as well.
So I have lived the Iowa / ISU fan experience for the past seven years. I was very surprised when I learned that a heat map of Iowa citizen's fan support was something like 75% Iowa, 20% ISU, and 5% UNI. The only area I found ISU with a superiority complex was in STEM. Everywhere else they are Iowa's little brother, even when geographically very close to Ames.
I will definitely need a nap or two before game time
Too soon
Edit: 76.27 in those 11….. hmmmm
Awesome! I’m a Tville native too
I hope the guys have a chip on their shoulder for the talk of what a “joke” their defense is. I think a lot of us agree that when we have a poor showing on that end effort plays a major roll. I think they will lock in on that end this game with a whole week of hearing only about the rightfully great ISU defense compared to what we put out there. I’m hopeful we will see more of the early season defense in this one. It has been trending in the right direction.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
I appreciate you coming on this board in a respectful way and providing perspective as an informed Iowa State fan. Thank you.
You guys have a terrific team this year and I wish you the best of luck in upcoming seasons.
Yet, I’m hoping your season ends Thursday. (Just as you are hoping ours is the one to end)
Either way, props to you for contributing to the dialogue with your perspective.
Best to you and yours
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
This. I want "Why not us?" to be the mantra this week. "ISU over Illinois? Why not us? UConn is a walking buzz saw? Forget it. Why not us?"
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