Not to drag this out...but the "damage" was done before Groce got here. Weber had the chance to take this program to another level after the success of Self and the 2005 run. Just look at what BU is doing without making it past the 2nd weekend. Win the B1G three years straight and turn a couple of huge recruiting wins into a string of them.
Weber literally took the 2005 success, bound and gagged, threw it in the trunk of his car, drove it out past Bement, and dumped it in a corn field.
Then went back with gasoline and a match and incinerated it. After taking an axe to it. With malice.
Then he held a funeral.
Huh...I did drag that out.
BEAT THE CHIEFS OR WHATEVER GO ILLINI!!