Pregame: Illinois vs Maryland, Thursday, January 23rd, 8:00pm CT, FS1

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#101      
Any recommendations of where to watch in Vegas? Illini bar or really cool Sportsbook
I'm in Vegas 3 times a year and have been to most. The FountainBleau and Resort Worl have nice books and comfortable place to watch. There is no on one the north side, so it is boring. My comps are typically from MGM properties and I like the Cosmo book and hotel in general, especially now that Mirage is gone. The MGM grand book is vastly overrated as is the Caesars book.
Long store short, I'd go to Cosmo.
Downtown Vegas is cool, Circa is fine.
 
#102      
Guys I like Brad. All I’m saying is we have to strike when the iron is hot. We can’t waste KJ only season at Illinois. It’s not ever year you have a Top 5 NBA draft lottery pick on Illinois . Who knows when we’ll get another player as talented as KJ again. I do feel like Illinois is the best team in the Big Ten that’s why I’m so frustrated with the USC and Northwestern losses . If we loss to Purdue or Michigan I would be more understanding
Okay, I’ll respond in good faith:

1. Everyone was frustrated with those losses, so your perspective isn’t novel or a “breath of fresh air” to get a bunch of blind homers to see the light.

2. As frustrating as those losses are, they in no way earn any reasonable person the right to genuinely question the capabilities of this coaching regime at the level you did. We already had multiple Big Ten banners and the best record in the conference over the last couple years, but even the “gotta perform in the Tournament!” critique was shattered last year. The Sweet Sixteen or Bust ultimatum was met with an Elite Eight appearance via defeating a 2-seed Iowa State team to whom nearly everyone had us losing.

3. This staff then lost nearly EVERYONE from that Elite Eight team and reloaded to the point where we have a team mostly led by freshmen back in the top 10 of the NET Rankings and on track for a 3/4 seed, even with our young-squad-hiccups. There is more than enough reason to believe this team will continue to refine its rougher edges as the season progresses. I can honestly say that the improvement from Alabama to Tennessee to now is astounding.

4. With all that in mind, the frustrating NU and USC losses have dug a shockingly shallow hole out of which we must climb. Dominant Quad 1 road wins at Oregon and Indiana have at least cancelled them out. Let’s give these guys a chance to regroup with KJ at home this week and see how we’re feeling. We all know there are things to clean up, but it’s unreasonable to expect otherwise with this young of a team. I think we’ll be humming along when March comes (just like last year), and I think this team’s ceiling is higher than last year’s. This squad might remain slightly erratic (which needs mostly fixed by Selection Sunday), but I’m QUITE confident they won’t regress. Enjoy the ride! 😎🔶🔷
 
#103      
Okay, I’ll respond in good faith:

1. Everyone was frustrated with those losses, so your perspective isn’t novel or a “breath of fresh air” to get a bunch of blind homers to see the light.

2. As frustrating as those losses are, they in no way earn any reasonable person the right to genuinely question the capabilities of this coaching regime at the level you did. We already had multiple Big Ten banners and the best record in the conference over the last couple years, but even the “gotta perform in the Tournament!” critique was shattered last year. The Sweet Sixteen or Bust ultimatum was met with an Elite Eight appearance via defeating a 2-seed Iowa State team to whom nearly everyone had us losing.

3. This staff then lost nearly EVERYONE from that Elite Eight team and reloaded to the point where we have a team mostly led by freshmen back in the top 10 of the NET Rankings and on track for a 3/4 seed, even with our young-squad-hiccups. There is more than enough reason to believe this team will continue to refine its rougher edges as the season progresses. I can honestly say that the improvement from Alabama to Tennessee to now is astounding.

4. With all that in mind, the frustrating NU and USC losses have dug a shockingly shallow hole out of which we must climb. Dominant Quad 1 road wins at Oregon and Indiana have at least cancelled them out. Let’s give these guys a chance to regroup with KJ at home this week and see how we’re feeling. We all know there are things to clean up, but it’s unreasonable to expect otherwise with this young of a team. I think we’ll be humming along when March comes (just like last year), and I think this team’s ceiling is higher than last year’s. This squad might remain slightly erratic (which needs mostly fixed by Selection Sunday), but I’m QUITE confident they won’t regress. Enjoy the ride! 😎🔶🔷
It's also not just Illinois with frustrating losses in league play.....
 
#106      
Okay, I’ll respond in good faith:

1. Everyone was frustrated with those losses, so your perspective isn’t novel or a “breath of fresh air” to get a bunch of blind homers to see the light.

2. As frustrating as those losses are, they in no way earn any reasonable person the right to genuinely question the capabilities of this coaching regime at the level you did. We already had multiple Big Ten banners and the best record in the conference over the last couple years, but even the “gotta perform in the Tournament!” critique was shattered last year. The Sweet Sixteen or Bust ultimatum was met with an Elite Eight appearance via defeating a 2-seed Iowa State team to whom nearly everyone had us losing.

3. This staff then lost nearly EVERYONE from that Elite Eight team and reloaded to the point where we have a team mostly led by freshmen back in the top 10 of the NET Rankings and on track for a 3/4 seed, even with our young-squad-hiccups. There is more than enough reason to believe this team will continue to refine its rougher edges as the season progresses. I can honestly say that the improvement from Alabama to Tennessee to now is astounding.

4. With all that in mind, the frustrating NU and USC losses have dug a shockingly shallow hole out of which we must climb. Dominant Quad 1 road wins at Oregon and Indiana have at least cancelled them out. Let’s give these guys a chance to regroup with KJ at home this week and see how we’re feeling. We all know there are things to clean up, but it’s unreasonable to expect otherwise with this young of a team. I think we’ll be humming along when March comes (just like last year), and I think this team’s ceiling is higher than last year’s. This squad might remain slightly erratic (which needs mostly fixed by Selection Sunday), but I’m QUITE confident they won’t regress. Enjoy the ride! 😎🔶🔷
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#107      
Records at the House of 'Paign since Brad got us back on track during the 2019-20 season:

5-0 vs. Northwestern
4-0 vs. Iowa
4-0 vs. Michigan
4-0 vs. Minnesota
4-0 vs. Nebraska
4-0 vs. Rutgers
4-0 vs. Wisconsin
3-1 vs. Indiana
3-1 vs. Michigan State
3-1 vs. Penn State

2-2 vs. Purdue
1-2 vs. Ohio State
1-3 vs. Maryland

This must stop, lol. Pummel them.
 
#108      
Looking around college basketball, the margin for error in power conference play seems to be quite small except for maybe Auburn and Duke.
Pair a cold spell with a lower-echelon team going on a heater for several minutes and last place can trip a contender. I’d guess it’s another byproduct of NIL, erratic officiating and in-conference familiarity. For me, it’s kinda fun to see (except when the Illini are the ones getting tripped).
 
#109      
Okay, I’ll respond in good faith:

1. Everyone was frustrated with those losses, so your perspective isn’t novel or a “breath of fresh air” to get a bunch of blind homers to see the light.

2. As frustrating as those losses are, they in no way earn any reasonable person the right to genuinely question the capabilities of this coaching regime at the level you did. We already had multiple Big Ten banners and the best record in the conference over the last couple years, but even the “gotta perform in the Tournament!” critique was shattered last year. The Sweet Sixteen or Bust ultimatum was met with an Elite Eight appearance via defeating a 2-seed Iowa State team to whom nearly everyone had us losing.

3. This staff then lost nearly EVERYONE from that Elite Eight team and reloaded to the point where we have a team mostly led by freshmen back in the top 10 of the NET Rankings and on track for a 3/4 seed, even with our young-squad-hiccups. There is more than enough reason to believe this team will continue to refine its rougher edges as the season progresses. I can honestly say that the improvement from Alabama to Tennessee to now is astounding.

4. With all that in mind, the frustrating NU and USC losses have dug a shockingly shallow hole out of which we must climb. Dominant Quad 1 road wins at Oregon and Indiana have at least cancelled them out. Let’s give these guys a chance to regroup with KJ at home this week and see how we’re feeling. We all know there are things to clean up, but it’s unreasonable to expect otherwise with this young of a team. I think we’ll be humming along when March comes (just like last year), and I think this team’s ceiling is higher than last year’s. This squad might remain slightly erratic (which needs mostly fixed by Selection Sunday), but I’m QUITE confident they won’t regress. Enjoy the ride! 😎🔶🔷
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#110      
Records at the House of 'Paign since Brad got us back on track during the 2019-20 season:

5-0 vs. Northwestern
4-0 vs. Iowa
4-0 vs. Michigan
4-0 vs. Minnesota
4-0 vs. Nebraska
4-0 vs. Rutgers
4-0 vs. Wisconsin
3-1 vs. Indiana
3-1 vs. Michigan State
3-1 vs. Penn State

2-2 vs. Purdue
1-2 vs. Ohio State
1-3 vs. Maryland

This must stop, lol. Pummel them.
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#111      
Looking around college basketball, the margin for error in power conference play seems to be quite small except for maybe Auburn and Duke.
Pair a cold spell with a lower-echelon team going on a heater for several minutes and last place can trip a contender. I’d guess it’s another byproduct of NIL, erratic officiating and in-conference familiarity. For me, it’s kinda fun to see (except when the Illini are the ones getting tripped).
Eh, Auburn will likely have some stumbles this year. The SEC is a good league. Duke, on the other hand, ought to run roughshod over a terrible ACC this year.
 
#112      
Plenty of teams have existed in the past with more NBA talent than this one. Same with experience and continuity.

As long as this team doesn’t completely fall face first into a pit of molten lava, I’d postulate this team has a legitimate argument to being BUs best overall coaching job. I think that’s an objective viewpoint at this stage of the year.

Time to start another win streak.
 
#113      
Looking around college basketball, the margin for error in power conference play seems to be quite small except for maybe Auburn and Duke.
Pair a cold spell with a lower-echelon team going on a heater for several minutes and last place can trip a contender. I’d guess it’s another byproduct of NIL, erratic officiating and in-conference familiarity. For me, it’s kinda fun to see (except when the Illini are the ones getting tripped).
I tend to agree. I would just LOVE if it this group could do something like get up to the top #3 seed and be in a bracket with the theoretically weaker #1 seed. Then you hope someone catches fire and knocks Auburn out on their off day, and we have a nice path to the Final Four. While I actually think our bracket last year was set up VERY well to at least get to the Sweet Sixteen, it was obviously unlucky to get UConn if you are looking to make it out of the Regional. In fact, in the post-2005 years where we have had a top 4 seed , I would argue we have had some decently bad luck, at least from the perspective of trying to hang another Final Four banner:

2024: #3 seed placed with #2 Iowa State (I remember chattering of them having an outside shot at a #1 seed) and the ONLY truly dominant team in the field, #1 UConn. Even getting to play UConn was obviously quite the accomplishment.
2022: #4 seed placed with #5 Houston, which had a top 5 NET Ranking, lol. We also had the second overall seed #1 Arizona waiting for us if we beat Houston.
2021: #1 seed that obviously fell flat, but considering we were technically seeded above #1 Michigan, their draw was SO much better than ours. To play #8 Loyola (who was #10 in the NET!) in the Second Round and then have #4 Oklahoma State (one of the hottest teams in the country at the time) waiting was rough. With that said, obviously we flopped.
2006: #4 seed was a slap in the face to this team, IMO (and further proof that flopping in your first BTT game DOES matter!!!!), but even so ... #5 Washington in the Second Round was a tough draw. They were on a roll and had gotten up to #12 in the AP Poll and appeared pretty under-seeded. Then, of course, you had second overall seeded #1 UConn waiting.

It was SUCH a breath of fresh air to simply get into the bottom half of the bracket last year, but it would be awesome to just truly feel like we got a lucky draw this year, haha.
 
#114      
Eh, Auburn will likely have some stumbles this year. The SEC is a good league. Duke, on the other hand, ought to run roughshod over a terrible ACC this year.
SEC is very deep. Beating a ranked Mississippi State team and a ranked Georgia team at Georgia without Broome was impressive. I despise Pearl and can’t stand the talking heads that fawn over him. But Auburn is good. I do believe in karma. Would love the Illini to end Auburn’s season in March…or even better yet, in April.
 
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#117      
Records at the House of 'Paign since Brad got us back on track during the 2019-20 season:

5-0 vs. Northwestern
4-0 vs. Iowa
4-0 vs. Michigan
4-0 vs. Minnesota
4-0 vs. Nebraska
4-0 vs. Rutgers
4-0 vs. Wisconsin
3-1 vs. Indiana
3-1 vs. Michigan State
3-1 vs. Penn State

2-2 vs. Purdue
1-2 vs. Ohio State
1-3 vs. Maryland

This must stop, lol. Pummel them.
Surprised by Penn State since they seemed to be our Achilles Heel for awhile.
 
#118      
Maryland is going to press but our guys have been good against the press. Maryland will also look to replicate what MSU did to KJ so our guys have to respond to that. Maryland is in a good spot in the NET right now so if we win it might go down as another Quad 1 win for us.
 
#119      
Eh, Auburn will likely have some stumbles this year. The SEC is a good league. Duke, on the other hand, ought to run roughshod over a terrible ACC this year.
since Covid, Auburn hasn't made the S16.
 
#120      
Surprised by Penn State since they seemed to be our Achilles Heel for awhile.
I actually was, too, but the broader streak vs. them was actually not that bad ... before we lost 4 in a row to them, we had beaten them 4 times in a row. And, of the 4 straight losses to PSU, 2 were in State College and 1 was at the United Center in the BTT.

But while it may not have been that bad numerically ... MAN, was it bad psychologically. These 4 straight losses are probably some of the most emotionally scarring in a 4-game streak vs. one opponent, lol:

1) L 59-74 in 2022-23 vs. Penn State at home while we are ranked #17 and had just beaten #2 Texas...
2) L 81-93 in 2022-23 at Penn State after we had just won 8 of 10 games and were seemingly back on track.
3) L 76-79 in 2022-23 vs. Penn State in the BTT in front of a 90%+ Illini crowd at the UC when we desperately needed to play ourselves off of that 8/9 line with a mini-BTT run.
4) L 89-90 in 2023-24 at Penn State in one of the worst (if not THE worst) collapses in Illini basketball history.

No wonder we had to exorcise some demons vs. them this year. :ROFLMAO:
 
#121      
Records at the House of 'Paign since Brad got us back on track during the 2019-20 season:

5-0 vs. Northwestern
4-0 vs. Iowa
4-0 vs. Michigan
4-0 vs. Minnesota
4-0 vs. Nebraska
4-0 vs. Rutgers
4-0 vs. Wisconsin
3-1 vs. Indiana
3-1 vs. Michigan State
3-1 vs. Penn State

2-2 vs. Purdue
1-2 vs. Ohio State
1-3 vs. Maryland

This must stop, lol. Pummel them.

So I think a big part of our struggles vs Maryland is that historically they’ve had great positional size at the guard/wing positions, and that was a tough matchup for us when we were running Trent, Belo, Plummer, and even Ayo and DaMonte out there. And then last year was one of our games without Terrence.

I think we’ve remedied the positional size problem. They will play us tough but if we limit their 3 point looks and if our bigs can stay out of foul trouble I like our chances.
 
#122      
So I think a big part of our struggles vs Maryland is that historically they’ve had great positional size at the guard/wing positions, and that was a tough matchup for us when we were running Trent, Belo, Plummer, and even Ayo and DaMonte out there. And then last year was one of our games without Terrence.

I think we’ve remedied the positional size problem. They will play us tough but if we limit their 3 point looks and if our bigs can stay out of foul trouble I like our chances.
Now WE give opponents the "positional size problems."
 
#124      
Records at the House of 'Paign since Brad got us back on track during the 2019-20 season:

5-0 vs. Northwestern
4-0 vs. Iowa
4-0 vs. Michigan
4-0 vs. Minnesota
4-0 vs. Nebraska
4-0 vs. Rutgers
4-0 vs. Wisconsin
3-1 vs. Indiana
3-1 vs. Michigan State
3-1 vs. Penn State

2-2 vs. Purdue
1-2 vs. Ohio State
1-3 vs. Maryland

This must stop, lol. Pummel them.
I've been to both of those OSU losses and two of the Maryland losses. I only go to 2-3 games a year. I also went to the Iowa game where we clinched the share of the B1G season title.

I won't go to any games the rest of the year out of an abundance of caution.
 
#125      
Maryland is going to press but our guys have been good against the press. Maryland will also look to replicate what MSU did to KJ so our guys have to respond to that. Maryland is in a good spot in the NET right now so if we win it might go down as another Quad 1 win for us.
No doubt Underwood will talk to the refs and make sure they know we got a bum deal in East Lansing. I hope he mentions something one of their big guys does repeatedly and how the refs have to be on the lookout for hook and holds or moving picks that Maryland does.
 
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