I think coach basically said he was trying to prove a point. knows the system, good effort on d and rebounding etc...Why is Tyler Underwood getting more playing time than Samba Kane?
I think coach basically said he was trying to prove a point. knows the system, good effort on d and rebounding etc...Why is Tyler Underwood getting more playing time than Samba Kane?
Why is Tyler Underwood getting more playing time than Samba Kane?
This is more in line with my complaint as to why TU is getting minutes at all. I believe the responses have been “5 minutes of mostly garbage time”, “Ayo had 4 fouls”, or basically I was making a bigger deal out of it than I should be.
It all comes back to this for me. Tevian is the only 6’6+ kid on our team that looks like the type of player/athlete that has dominated the Illini for years. Samba Kane is 7’ with above average athleticism and his offensive skills in the time he was in the game (limited of course) looked much better than DeLarosa’s methodical post moves then air ball or brick. Haven’t seen a 7 footer miss the rim from 3 feet out as many times as he has BTW. They are both lost on the defensive end. Okay. That could be said for the entire team in some stretches this year. I disagree with the idea that they will only learn in practice. They will learn by playing at game speed against the type of competition they will see in a B10 game. Not at practice in drills and playing with the scout team. These are the types of players you have said you need to have to play your style of basketball. Then play them.
I don’t care what the optics, these scholarship athletes are entitled to opportunities 1 through 10 and the walk ons get in with 90 seconds left of a blowout no matter which side of the win/loss column you are on. That’s it!
Big fan of Brad Underwood, but his reasoning for playing his son is crap. He is trying to send a message to his team and there are other ways. Tyler dove on one loose ball, other than that he looks so uncomfortable out there no way he is making a positive impact during meaningful parts of the game. Play the scholarship athletes or it will hurt your current team’s perception of what you’re trying to accomplish and I guarantee you recruits take notice of it as well. These kids don’t come here to watch intramural talent play on their stage.
Thanks for the info. Hope the game is worth the trip and the parking,I've parked here at least 3 times, never had any issues, my best guess for cheapness is distance to UC, which isn't bad, but obviously not as close as lots directly attached.
What is tevian Jones status?
IMO, you play the kids who earn the playing time. Trent Meacham was a walkon for a couple years and played a big role on our best team since Dee left. If Tevian Jones has a problem with it, he should do whatever he needs to to get unsuspended and get back on the floor. 8 months ago, this board was sure that part of the reason 6 people left the team early was because they didn't have the right mental makeup to play for a BU coached team. Now people here are going to claim we should play kids who BU doesn't think have earned the time just to make sure their feelings aren't hurt. :noidea:These kids don’t come here to watch intramural talent play on their stage.
This is more in line with my complaint as to why TU is getting minutes at all. I believe the responses have been “5 minutes of mostly garbage time”, “Ayo had 4 fouls”, or basically I was making a bigger deal out of it than I should be.
These kids don’t come here to watch intramural talent play on their stage.
I don’t care what the optics, these scholarship athletes are entitled to opportunities 1 through 10 and the walk ons get in with 90 seconds left of a blowout no matter which side of the win/loss column you are on. That’s it!
It's amazing to me that people already don't trust Underwood to handle team discipline issues they know absolutely nothing about. People criticizing his system or recruiting at least have some available information to look at. With Tevain, people are just guessing that his punishment is too harsh and he should be back on the floor playing. What are you basing this on? What if it is an ongoing violation? We have absolutely no idea, but some people sure do seem certain Underwood is in the wrong here.What we stand to lose is Tevian Jones at the end of the season and his buddy January de-committing.
No. He can't. Each exodus adds another two years onto the rebuild. Underwood won't be here that long if it happens again after this season....heck, he might not be here after this season. Though I highly doubt it.Does not seem a good strategy to insure player retention. Personally, I wonder if Underwood can survive another exodus of players.
I don’t care what the optics, these scholarship athletes are entitled to opportunities 1 through 10 and the walk ons get in with 90 seconds left of a blowout no matter which side of the win/loss column you are on. That’s it!
For sure. Our losses aren't bad at all, it just sucks that we couldn't have pulled one of them out. If we would have just predictably lost to Gonzaga, Iowa State and Nebraska but gotten a little luckier (like a healthy Frazier leads us past Georgetown and Trent's three goes in vs. Notre Dame), we are a drastically different 4-4. 4-4 gives us a chance to "gel" and get hot and potentially even finish the non-conference season 9-4 with an upset of OSU and still have Tourney hopes. As it stands now, our season is all but over, barring a drastic turnaround. That's what's so upsetting.
Don't get me wrong, I will watch all year and - assuming we see significant improvement by the end of the year and we look cohesive - I am absolutely still on the Underwood train; I really like some of our players.
Beating a ranked OSU team would go a long way for this "turnaround!"
The comeback against ND was heartening.
Given where we're at, I'll set a pretty crappy, but measurable goal: I hope the team finishes 2 games out of last place. We play Rutgers at home, so that should be 1 of them. Gotta find another on the schedule.
Entitled to play? AYFKM? I'll tell you who is entitled to play, a player that is following the rules, busting his arse, and EARNING his minutes.
Check out those stats. Ayo leading team is total points (to be fair: Trent is averaging more), rebounds, and assists. Giorgi is tied in rebounds, and Trent averaging more on assists, but still pretty impressive.I rather doubt many players are thinking "Gee I better work harder in practice, and execute the coaches system to perfection during games or Tyler is going to take all my minutes." Tyler is not exactly gobbling up the minutes.
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This is division 1 college athletics. Nobody is entitled to anything. If you don't come and work hard everyday you haven't earned playing time. You're basically saying these guys are entitled to play based on what they did in high school. To use a more extreme recent example, Baker Mayfield was a walk on at two separate schools before becoming the starting QB and Heisman winner. But, he should've got comfy on the bench because he hadn't earned anything but garbage time.
This sounds of the opinion of someone who has never played team sports. Thinking everyone gets playing time to not hurt any feelings.
Wouldn't bet on the Rutgers game if I were you...or any other for that matter this year.
asking for a friend: what is ticket availability like from "third party sellers" outside assembly hall? In other words, is it fairly easy to buy tickets out front from people with extras? are there local rules or prohibitions against selling tickets out front?