MustangWally
- Mayfield
Josh waiting for his luggage just like normal people.
Pregame: Illinois vs UCLA, Friday, November 18th, 8:30pm CT, ESPNU
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Josh waiting for his luggage just like normal people.
Hawkins was a 3-star.
Well, you didn't really address my point.
Like our coach, I don't "only look at points." So, for example, 5 turnovers in 17 minutes also catches my eye.
But regardless of that, the preseason buzz was on Hawkins being a potential NBA guy after this season. Unquestionably, him performing that way this year would be better than him not. This isn't complicated. If he plays like he did the last two games, our ceiling is much lower. I'd imagine that BU would privately say the same thing. Truly, who wouldn't?
We really have three guys that really need to come with top level games about 90% of the time. Shannon, Mayer, and Hawkins. They are the experienced leaders on the team. If they fall short of expectations, the season is likely to disappoint. Of course, it could all be a moot point if freshmen step up to pass them.
Top 100 is good and BU has certainly upgraded our talent, but there are teams out there with several McDonald's AAs. We don't have one. Our top rated player was just barely in the top 30. And Hawkins was rated around 150 and a three star.
And I'm not saying H.S. rankings are gospel -- the recruiting gurus certainly miss on a lot of guys. It's just that people here, year-in and year-out, overrate our talent vis a vis other teams.
PizzaHutParkingLot
- McPherson, KS
Big ten tourney champs and big ten regular season champs the last two years and you criticize the coach. What a fan you are.
We are ranked #19 with the other 3 teams in Las Vegas ranked ahead of us this weekend. All 3 teams will be favored against us, so I hope Brad tells them to go in there and play loose, with nothing to lose. I feel that getting a split in las Vegas will be a win. Two wins, and we easily break the top 10. I'm not sure any of the 4 teams know where they truly stand yet, or truly knows how good they are yet. I know we played inferior competition in the first 3 games, but I saw athleticism for the Illini that I truly haven't seen since the "89 Flyin' Illini, and I have not missed many games on the last 30-35 years. Whether we go 2-0, 1-1, or even 0-2 (as long as they are close games), we are in for quite a ride with this group. Let's go Illini!!!!!!
Yep…..pretty good.
Here’s the info you’re asking for.
(I’d say UCLA isn’t too shabby either when it comes to landing talent)
The beloved without a single 5*, while UCLA pulls one in basically every year.
4* about the same
3* - UI 4x more 3*
With that said….BU has flipped from 3* to 4*…while still trying to land his first elusive 5*.
24/7 player rankings
Not inclusive of transfers
2018 - 2022 (5 years)
UCLA
4 - 5*
9 - 4*
2 - 3*
Illinois
0 - 5*
12 - 4*
8 - 3*
Nah, that's def an alien practicing mind control on you right now.
Thanks for finding that. By most objective measures, they have more talent than us.
And further, there are teams like UNC, Duke, Kentucky, and Arkansas, that have even more talent than UCLA.
We have enough talent to win any game.
Can we play together? How does our offense operate when we really need a bucket? How will these guys react when things don’t go to plan? What’s our “go to” lineup?
We have a lot more questions than answers right now. One thing is sure, we will learn a lot about this team over the next 72 hours. It’s going to be fun. Hopefully I can keep my blood pressure down…
Can we play together? How does our offense operate when we really need a bucket? How will these guys react when things don’t go to plan? What’s our “go to” lineup?
We have a lot more questions than answers right now. One thing is sure, we will learn a lot about this team over the next 72 hours. It’s going to be fun. Hopefully I can keep my blood pressure down…
You just made me feel very old.
the national
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And Texas.
I meant just this year
If you can't remember Nick Weatherspoon, you are not old. Well, either that or really old.
I object to that.
Oir defense should keep us in the game even when our shots aren't falling. But scoring isn't our problem to me. Our defense is what gets us going and what will lead to wins. Especially for the freshman and guys that aren't used to our culture yet. Our defense leads to offense. And fast break points, I think will be key. Let's go! I can't wait!
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uofi7477
- Silver & Gold Vandals
And there is Spoon in my Avatar. I am an old one now.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
No. 19 Illinois vs. No. 8 UCLA basketball betting line, over/under, point spread
Here are the UCLA vs. Illinois Fighting Illini men's basketball game betting odds, over/under and point spread for Friday, Nov. 18, 2022.
Erik Hall
The UCLA and Illinois Fighting Illini men's basketball teams are scheduled to meet in the 2022 Continental Tire Main Event on Friday, Nov. 18. The game is scheduled to start at 8:30 p.m. CT/6:30 p.m. PT.
Illinois, ranked No. 19 in The Associated Press poll, comes into the matchup 3-0 overall. Most recently, Illinois defeated Monmouth 103-65 on Monday.
No. 8-ranked UCLA enters the contest 3-0 overall. On Monday, UCLA beat Norfolk State 86-56.
Entering Friday, UCLA leads the all-time series 6-3 vs. Illinois.
Illinois vs. UCLA basketball betting odds
Walking around Vegas last night at the airport and on the strip we saw several Illini fans. Although I am sure there are other teams with fans here we have yet to see a single one. Hopefully the crowd will be to our advantage.
MDchicago
- Lake Norman NC
Based on consensus rankings, would sustain your objection.
Illinois: 9 RSCI top 100 players with average rank of 75 and high of 32 (8/72 who will be available tonight) + unranked player (Coleman) who is a projected 2nd round pick.
Top 100 players on roster include 4 freshman (1 in top 50) and a sophomore with little college game experience.
Non-freshman on roster: 5 with significant experience, 5 who were Top 100 (4/4 available tonight); none ranked in the top 50.
UCLA: 7 RSCI top 100 players with average rank of 55 and highest of 10 + unranked PG who is talented and experienced.
Top 100 players on roster include 4 freshmen (all in top 51).
Non-freshman on roster: 4 with significant experience + redshirt senior (Nwuba); 3 ranked in top 100; none ranked in the top 50.
My takeaway: both teams are plenty talented enough to win (Bart Torvik had both teams in the top 5 in the country in his pre-season ranking of effective talent) and would win a decent share of games in a multi-game series.
Who knows in a single early season game with freshmen playing significant minutes for both teams? It will come down to execution and clutch play on the court, with freshman play, 3s (whose are falling and whose are not) and refs as wildcards.
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theNewGuy
- Dallas, TX
You forgot the other scenario where we go 13-0 beating UCLA, Baylor, and Texas.
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