Pregame: Illinois vs Wisconsin, Friday, March 13th, 1:30pm CT, BTN

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#228      
AirTran
Birdus said:
We did not play great against Wisconsin the first time. I think we win this time. As far as Michigan goes, if we play to our potential and they are off a bit, we can and should win. May is a better in game coach than Underwood is but if we are hitting our shots, we have a SHOT. Michigan State is playing better than when we played them but we owe them and I am hoping if we get that far we play them again.
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DJM said:
Assuming we get the badgers, thoughts on starting Andres Friday instead of Jake? Jake can't guard or slow down Blackwell. I get the consistensy thing Brad has brought up and the "liability" of having Andres and Kylan on the floor together (same type of players, poor 3 point shooting, course if that were the case, Tomi and Z shouldn't be allowed on the floor together from here on out) and the combination of Andres being injured or sick.
But, the ankle looked fine last game and he should be healthy. I understand having Jake out there to hit an early couple of threes but I like the idea of (1) suprise (2) Kylan on Boyd and Andres on Blackwell to start and shut them down (or at least slow them down) early (3) mess with their rotation and ours to a certain extent but we'd at least be prepared for it (4) if all goes as planned and we slow them down early, Jake comes in and knocks down a couple 3's.
I also think a healthy Andres being able to penetrate will help to creat shots for Keaton out front.
Any thoughts?
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I think the players that have the best match ups will play the most minutes. If we are going to win its on the defensive and rebounding side. Keep in mind, Wisconsin as two 6'10" and one 7" so our size is not as large a differentiator here.
 
#229      
RML
Since I was thinking about missed passing opportunities when we drive the ball, I thought I would check a number I've never seen discussed: field goal attempt-to-assist ratio. How many shots do you take for every assist that you get?

I was surprised by some of the comparisons. Here are the numbers (I included Petro for the curious):

Petro: 1.8
Keaton: 2.8
Kylan: 2.9
Mirk: 3.8
T: 4.9
Ben: 5.7
Jake: 5.9
Andrej: 9.5
Z: 16.8

(Terrence Shannon's last year with us: 6.3.
Kofi, for his career here: 22.0)
 
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#230      
lstewart53x3
RML said:
Since I was thinking about missed passing opportunities when we drive the ball, I thought I would check a number I've never seen discussed: field goal attempt-to-assist ratio. How many shots do you take for every assist that you get?

I was surprised by some of the comparisons. Here are the numbers (I included Petro for the curious):

Petro: 1.8
Keaton: 2.8
Kylan: 2.9
Mirk: 3.8
T: 4.9
Ben: 5.7
Jake: 5.9
Andrej: 9.5
Z: 16.8

(Terrence Shannon's last year with us: 6.3.
Kofi, for his career here: 22.0)
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Andrej stands out
 
#232      
CleverHandle1
RabidDawgClassic said:
Be even funnier if Jake wore Gard wig after a win. 😂
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Combing George Costanza GIF by HULU
 
#234      
ThePortalMadeMeDoIt
Gang, this is a REALLY good basketball team and that hasn’t changed one iota. As @NarrowJ said in that fantastic post, the thing that has happened the last 2-3 weeks is we aren’t making WIDE OPEN shots like we were for most of the season. We are getting pretty much whatever looks we want. The ball movement, for the most part, has been really good. Have to knock down a higher percentage of those clean looks. It really is that simple.

The encouraging thing for me is that despite the struggles from deep we are finding ways to keep the scoreboard moving. Getting inside with penetration, hard cuts to the basket, free throws, etc.

We were 5-24 against Maryland from 3 and still scored 78 points.
We were 10-36 against Oregon and scored 80.
There are lots of examples like this throughout the season.

We have been held below 70 points ONCE the entire season. Have to get Tomi and Keaton going again.
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I could give 2 flips if we are making 3's. I need consistent defense! Nice to hear Keaton is going to be more aggressive, you are the best player on the team you need to act like it, alpha time. Still don't want him on my Bulls though, I don't think his game will translate to top 10 pick status.
 
#236      
AirTran
Since I was thinking about missed passing opportunities when we drive the ball, I thought I would check a number I've never seen discussed: field goal attempt-to-assist ratio. How many shots do you take for every assist that you get?

I was surprised by some of the comparisons. Here are the numbers (I included Petro for the curious):

Petro: 1.8
Keaton: 2.8
Kylan: 2.9
Mirk: 3.8
T: 4.9
Ben: 5.7
Jake: 5.9
Andrej: 9.5
Z: 16.8

(Terrence Shannon's last year with us: 6.3.
Kofi, for his career here: 22.0)
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Excuse me - the offense we run right now is predicated on offensive rebounding and 3pt shooting. That is NOT the offense we ran when Kofi, TSJ or Ayo were here.

There is no relevance to the comparisons. Perhaps you may want to listen to some of Brad's interviews. We pass the ball pretty well. Who gets the assist (the final pass) is completely irrelevant. Given Andrej's role and the shots he is supposed to take, If he wasn't last on this list he wouldn't be following the offense as designed or how we match up.

If you want to find to something to complain about... how about going over the Indiana or Southern Call boards? I am confident you will be more welcome there.
 
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Second place is 1st loser
Wisconsin has impressive quad 1 wins

UCLA
@Michigan
Ohio State
@Illinois
Michigan State
Iowa
@Purdue

We will have to play well to win on neutral court. Good prep for NCAAs. Can't look past them to Michigan.
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Look past them??? After what happened @ Maryland, we shouldn't be looking past Schaumburg High School.

That won't happen. If we get beat, it's because they were better for 40 minutes (or more)
 
#242      
Icy veins
If anyone’s cagey about this team heading into single elimination - get this - our team is 6-4 from February onward (no good). However, during that time, Torvik has us as 5th best team in the country (very good), higher than our season average of 6th. We’ve been playing well overall, we’ve just had some games not go our way.
 
#243      
Piotyr
Icy veins said:
If anyone’s cagey about this team heading into single elimination - get this - our team is 6-4 from February onward (no good). However, during that time, Torvik has us as 5th best team in the country (very good), higher than our season average of 6th. We’ve been playing well overall, we’ve just had some games not go our way.
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The biggest trick right now with the numbers is if you want to argue Illinois is playing poorly, use the last 4 games, and if you want to argue Illinois is playing well, use the last 5 games.
 
#244      
NarrowJ
Piotyr said:
The biggest trick right now with the numbers is if you want to argue Illinois is playing poorly, use the last 4 games, and if you want to argue Illinois is playing well, use the last 5 games.
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Or just use the last two games and it looks quite horrible (because Oregon and Maryland are quite horrible and you’d presumably need to win by 40 to show in the top 10?)
 
#245      
Icy veins
Piotyr said:
The biggest trick right now with the numbers is if you want to argue Illinois is playing poorly, use the last 4 games, and if you want to argue Illinois is playing well, use the last 5 games.
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Yeah. I just tend to think that 4-5 games either way is too small of a sample to be predictive when we’ve got a season’s worth of data. For my personal brackets, the smallest sample size I’ll use for predictions is 1-15-2026 onward
 
#248      
jrock
Illinois is 4-4 in their last 8 games. Our 4 wins have come against Indiana, Oregon, Maryland, and NW. Its pretty straight forward that we are in a rut.

The defense has to get right in a hurry or we could easily be out by the end of the 1st weekend of the NCAA's.

The Ivisic Brothers also need to get right. I think I heard somewhere, sleepers media? that they are a combined 4 for 36 in the last 6 games from 3. That is absolutely brutal.

I think beating Wisconsin tomorrow pending they win vs. Washington would be a huge boost for us going forward.
 
#250      
wc_illini
jrock said:
Illinois is 4-4 in their last 8 games. Our 4 wins have come against Indiana, Oregon, Maryland, and NW. Its pretty straight forward that we are in a rut.

The defense has to get right in a hurry or we could easily be out by the end of the 1st weekend of the NCAA's.

The Ivisic Brothers also need to get right. I think I heard somewhere, sleepers media? that they are a combined 4 for 36 in the last 6 games from 3. That is absolutely brutal.

I think beating Wisconsin tomorrow pending they win vs. Washington would be a huge boost for us going forward.
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Yeah, we want to win it all, and we didn't play like the top 4 during this stretch, but we've still been very good since Feb 7:
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