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<blockquote data-quote="wpr" data-source="post: 1781836" data-attributes="member: 4159"><p>How many back of the rotation guys do you want?</p><p></p><p>Hudson at best is a 3 but he can't put it together for 3 innings. He can't even put together an inning without letting runners get on base.</p><p>Matz is a 5.</p><p>Hicks is a Hudson clone.</p><p>I have hope for Liberatore he is a year or two away from becoming a solid pitcher.</p><p>Naughton? Back of the order.</p><p>Flaherty. Doesn't count until he pitches.</p><p>Waino is 100 years old. He's done an outstanding job but he should be expected to be a 1 or 2. At the beginning of the season it was thought he would be #4.</p><p>Mikolas is the #1 this year but he should be a 2 or 3 himself.</p><p>I skipped over Pallante on purpose. At the beginning of spring training no one thought of him making the team let alone being a #3. His numbers reflect #4. You can't call him a #3 when he has faced only 8 teams as a starter. Clearly his numbers as a reliever are better. </p><p></p><p>With the injuries they have faced they need a solid #2 not another back of the rotation pitcher. Not another old man who they hope can last into October. He may be having a solid season but it's the first time since his 1/2 season with the Cubs in 2017 that he has had a good performance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wpr, post: 1781836, member: 4159"] How many back of the rotation guys do you want? Hudson at best is a 3 but he can't put it together for 3 innings. He can't even put together an inning without letting runners get on base. Matz is a 5. Hicks is a Hudson clone. I have hope for Liberatore he is a year or two away from becoming a solid pitcher. Naughton? Back of the order. Flaherty. Doesn't count until he pitches. Waino is 100 years old. He's done an outstanding job but he should be expected to be a 1 or 2. At the beginning of the season it was thought he would be #4. Mikolas is the #1 this year but he should be a 2 or 3 himself. I skipped over Pallante on purpose. At the beginning of spring training no one thought of him making the team let alone being a #3. His numbers reflect #4. You can't call him a #3 when he has faced only 8 teams as a starter. Clearly his numbers as a reliever are better. With the injuries they have faced they need a solid #2 not another back of the rotation pitcher. Not another old man who they hope can last into October. He may be having a solid season but it's the first time since his 1/2 season with the Cubs in 2017 that he has had a good performance. [/QUOTE]
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