viking6888
Greeley, Colorado
St Louis Cardinals 2023
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viking6888
Greeley, Colorado
This idea sounds horrible!
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MLB expansion proposal calls to split Cardinals from division with Cubs
One new proposal, brought forth Tuesday by The Athletic, calls to split the St. Louis Cardinals and Chicago Cubs into different divisions if Major League Baseball expands to 32 teams.
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NEIlliniFan
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What a dumb idea...which is exactly why MLB will do itThis idea sounds horrible!
MLB expansion proposal calls to split Cardinals from division with Cubs
One new proposal, brought forth Tuesday by The Athletic, calls to split the St. Louis Cardinals and Chicago Cubs into different divisions if Major League Baseball expands to 32 teams.
They will also never get rid of NL/AL. I could see a change in number of divisions from 6 to 8, and some movement to accommodate that, but with expanded wildcard already, why not just have uneven divisions again (some with 5 teams, some with 6)?
fewer divisions with more teams makes sense. The NFL with 4 team divisions is dumb.
Agree, and the only problem previously with it in MLB was the 6 team divisions were at a disadvantage for making playoffs when there was only one wildcard team. Now that there are 3 wildcard spots, it really doesn't matter.
It still matters. Wild card games are not the same as a 5 or 7 game series. Winning a weak division and then hosting a wild card game has an advantage over the team with a better record that finished 2nd in its division.
Not so sure. For one, wild card is now a 3 game series and one of the division winners has to play in it anyway. Second, these days the team with more weapons is more likely to win regardless of divisional standing or regular season record. I think that's the lesson of the playoffs the last few seasons.
Former Cardinal Alex Reyes has signed a one-year deal with the Dodgers, pending a physical, with a club option for 2024.
This looks like it's going to get really bad, really fast:
Ryllini
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We have a lot of guys in the WBC. Will be awesome to see how our young guys take advantage of their opportunity in Jupiter, along will be cool watching the WBC and all the Cards scattered on teams.
I'm really hoping Jack is fully healthy and can be the linchpin that we desperately need in the rotation.
I think baseball will expand shortly after the stadium issues in Oakland and Tampa are resolved. Splitting the Cubs and Cardinals or Giants and Dodgers is dumb. Going to four-team divisions that would necessitate splitting up those rivalries is dumb.
But, with the odd number of teams in each league making it so that you have to do some awkward scheduling, always having at least one inter-league series going, MLB is practically begging for expansion.
When they do expand, Montreal is pretty much a stone cold lock to be one of the teams assuming the Rays don’t move there first. Montreal is the largest U.S./Canadian market without a team, 4 or 5 times larger than the closest market behind them.
After Montreal, there are several markets that are all basically the same size - Vancouver, Portland, Sacramento, Las Vegas, San Antonio, Nashville, Charlotte and Orlando - without too much differentiating one from the other.
Orlando and Sacramento are both probably too close to existing franchises, but any of the rest could end up with teams.
Eventually, MLB will expand to Mexico. I don’t think this is the round of expansion for that, but whether it’s in 5 years or 25 years, it will happen. Mexico City is just too gigantic a market for it not to happen.
I think the Caribbean is less likely. The biggest cities there - San Juan, Santo Domingo, and, if the politics ever normalize, Havana are all similar in size to the U.S./Canadian cities that don’t have teams yet, and for the foreseeable future, there’s just going to be more money on the mainland.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Cardinals Extra: Early birds, Jack Flaherty throws to new catcher Willson Contreras
Adam Wainwright also took to the mound here on Monday and the veteran said his sinker is already in great spot, thanks to some re-gripping and other changes.
JUPITER, Fla. — Wearing his spring training uniform for the first time in 2023, Cardinals pitcher Jack Flaherty took to the mound Monday … and threw strikes to a guy he used to try to strike out.
New Cardinals backstop Willson Contreras was behind the plate, catching Flaherty during the sun-splashed bullpen session. It was a cool visual and a sign that spring is starting. Flaherty threw his pitches to former Cub's glove, which is a new red-colored mitt.
update : Looking through the photos at the end of the article , I never realized how much GM Girsch looks like Bill Mahre....uncanny
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Florida already has 2 dead/dying clubs. I can't fathom adding another. Even if Tampa flees the state they won't dump another one in just yet.
Cali has 5 teams. Adding a 6th doesn't make sense either.
Had to believe but Montreal does seem likely. Times do change.
Mexico City has the population but not the capital. They could never support a team's $100-150 million payroll while charging 1/4 to 1/2 of the average ticket price in the U.S.
I have always eyed Nashville as a potential expansion city but Cincy, Atlanta, St Louis and to a lesser degree Houston and Dallas hem them in. Likewise the two Texas clubs and the Mexican border hinder San Antonio's chances.
Charlotte has a chance but there are so many teams on the eastern third of the country adding one more doesn't make sense.
I don't see Portland getting a lot of love. Seattle is to the north. The Pacific Ocean to the west. The emptiness of the Rockies to the east.
With all the other major sports flocking to the desert, Vegas is showing they can be a contender. All they need to do is build a domed stadium. There's not a huge population base to draw from but there are a ton of visitors every year.
Lastly there is Vancouver. Years (and years ago) after the Montreal failure I doubted MLB would want to go into western Canada. As I said times change. Would the powers that be want to add two new franchises in Canada? Probably not. But there is money in the oil fields. There is money to be had in much of western Canada.
I see Oakland moving to Vegas (yes again.)
Tampa heading to Montreal.
Vancouver getting the true expansion team.
San Antonio getting the chance to prove Texas is big enough for three.
Charlotte and Orlando are the runners up.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Cardinals, John Mozeliak agree on extension to lead baseball ops through 2025, per source
Cardinals have not had a losing season in Mozeliak's 15 years leading baseball operations, and new agreement will give him three decades with club.
JUPITER, Fla. — The architect behind 15 consecutive winning seasons will continue to lead the Cardinals for several more years, through the construction of a modern spring training complex, the upkeep of the big-league rotation and the high-rise spending of National League rivals.
John Mozeliak and the Cardinals have reached agreement on a two-year extension for him to remain president of baseball operations through at least the 2025 season, a source told the Post-Dispatch.
Has anyone every been to spring training? I'll be in the Jupiter area for work in a couple weeks, and I've always wanted to go.
I read on the mlb website that watching workouts is free. But I can't find a schedule of when they are practicing, only game schedules. And tickets to the games start at $23, which is a little silly when I can watch an actual game at Busch for less than that.
I read on the mlb website that watching workouts is free. But I can't find a schedule of when they are practicing, only game schedules. And tickets to the games start at $23, which is a little silly when I can watch an actual game at Busch for less than that.
The last time I went to a Cardinals spring training was in 1983 in St Pete. That won't help you at all.
You may be right. But expansion will only result in more bad teams. Baseball needs less rather than more.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Ex-Cardinals broadcaster Dan McLaughlin opens up about his demons, hopes sad story helps others
McLaughlin: 'I'm ashamed, embarrassed, and I am incredibly sad. However, I don't want pity. I hope this can be a wake-up call if you're struggling.'
this is a must read for Cardinal fans and people that have some of the same problems that Danny mac is dealing with on a daily basis................
it took a lot of courage for him to do this ...........
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