Texas Tech 84, Illinois 78 Postgame

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Kofi got bounced in the Round of 32 and went undrafted. Mirkovic isn’t currently a consensus projected 1st round draft pick. Both were/are All-American college level players. The Ivisics will not play in the NBA.

This program doesn’t have a forward or center in the league getting rotational minutes. I consider TSJ a perimeter-oriented guard-forward hybrid. And as things stand we don’t have one in the pipeline. Wabbington was a possibility. He went to Indiana.

I’m happy to call us Guard U. Ayo (and his $100M+ contract), TSJ, KJ, Will Riley, and Keaton (and his $40M+ contract). QC ain’t far behind.

We are not Big Man U. I hope we can start to change that after the Ivisics move on. We need a someone in the mould of a Krivas, Condon, Mara, Clingan. Height and athleticism. Not just a 3ball.
Tomi’s complete lack of development is frustrating. The fact he can’t get a damn rebound to save his life really hurts us.
 
#377      
Getting bigger and stronger is great but you still need to learn how to use it to your advantage. I thought both Tomi and Z would both improve greatly in the post with Antiguas help like Michigan states big men seem to do but that hasn't happened.
I've actually thought Tomi has looked significantly better in the low post the last two years than he did as in is first.

However he just isn't in that position very much.
 
#378      
When they panned in, it just looked imposing. The bowl was steep and meant to be in your line of sight at all times, which is vastly different from what we have.

If we want to add students, now is the time. It sells out almost instantly, but we'd need to find a place to put them. With the olds on one side and the suites on the other, we seem pretty stuck with what we have.
The olds can and will pay the ticket prices and those prices aren't coming down. NIL is contingent on those seats being filled at a premium and donations. We're not a program that has bags of money coming in to create a nice balance. What's needed vs student experience don't align. Until we get around that, premium seating for those giving the most money will be the priority.
 
#379      
Kofi got bounced in the Round of 32 and went undrafted. Mirkovic isn’t currently a consensus projected 1st round draft pick. Both were/are All-American college level players. The Ivisics will not play in the NBA.

This program doesn’t have a forward or center in the league getting rotational minutes. I consider TSJ a perimeter-oriented guard-forward hybrid. And as things stand we don’t have one in the pipeline. Wabbington was a possibility. He went to Indiana.

I’m happy to call us Guard U. Ayo (and his $100M+ contract), TSJ, KJ, Will Riley, and Keaton (and his $40M+ contract). QC ain’t far behind.

We are not Big Man U. I hope we can start to change that after the Ivisics move on. We need a someone in the mould of a Krivas, Condon, Mara, Clingan. Height and athleticism. Not just a 3ball.

Kofi's game doesn't translate and we all know that.

I agree we are not Big Man U. Obviously.

We aren't Guard U or Point Guard U either. A school like Kentucky has a literal line of NBA All-Stars come through there.

Was just having some fun with a Mirk GIF because it just seemed like your post was a continuation of your full-on repertoire of chicken little stuff you've been posting since the Texas Tech game.

Will Ferrell Chill GIF
 
#380      
Kofi got bounced in the Round of 32 and went undrafted. Mirkovic isn’t currently a consensus projected 1st round draft pick. Both were/are All-American college level players. The Ivisics will not play in the NBA.

This program doesn’t have a forward or center in the league getting rotational minutes. I consider TSJ a perimeter-oriented guard-forward hybrid. And as things stand we don’t have one in the pipeline. Wabbington was a possibility. He went to Indiana.

I’m happy to call us Guard U. Ayo (and his $100M+ contract), TSJ, KJ, Will Riley, and Keaton (and his $40M+ contract). QC ain’t far behind.

We are not Big Man U. I hope we can start to change that after the Ivisics move on. We need a someone in the mould of a Krivas, Condon, Mara, Clingan. Height and athleticism. Not just a 3ball.

Krivas and Condon?

Those guys are back at school just like Mirk
 
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Kofi's game doesn't translate and we all know that.

I agree we are not Big Man U. Obviously.

We aren't Guard U or Point Guard U either. A school like Kentucky has a literal line of NBA All-Stars come through there.

Was just having some fun with a Mirk GIF because it just seemed like your post was a continuation of your full-on repertoire of chicken little stuff you've been posting since the Texas Tech game.

Will Ferrell Chill GIF
Look forward to your balanced, glass half full posts following the Duke and UConn games.

“This is why we schedule these games.”

Coming on the heels of the 2025 embarassment at Duke and 0-3 vs. UConn in last 3 seasons, I’m glad we’ll all be able to draw on the positives of playing tough opponents in tough environments without our best player.

This board is going to have a rough 2.5 months till our next chance at a marquee win vs. USC in late January.
 
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I know I have been too negative about this game, but our lack of fight, intensity, or whatever you want to call it in the first half just pissed me off. Losses happen, but that was embarrassing.

When or lose at Duke Tuesday, I want us to come out of the locker room and fight. Get after it. Live with the result.

I don’t what the announcers asking what the hell we’re doing.
Way too negative and not fully embracing the spot we're in. If Brad knew that Mirk AND Davis wouldn't be available, this game isn't scheduled for the first week in November and Duke wouldn't be scheduled at all.

We started three freshmen which, I promise you, wasn't the plan. The young guys, outside of QC, were clearly shook. We had 18 year olds playing against 5th year guys. Not ideal.

No announcer was befuddled by what we were doing. They continually linked it back to the amount of time we had freshmen on the court in game 3 of their college careers. Morillo and Zens were CLEARLY overwhelmed and Brown was totally out of his element early on. When they shortened the rotation in the second half, development went out the window, but the game tightened up.

You're really overanalyzing a situation that isn't that difficult to absorb to anyone with a reasonable expectation of a scenario where our All American is in a boot and a critical starter with a ton of experience is in a sling. Playing that level of competition is one thing. Dropping a true road game on these kids head, this early, is another thing all together. Again.....this wasn't the plan going in.

We'll win big tomorrow, but quite honestly, I would expect another rough ride @Duke. UCONN at the UC will be the first marquee game where the bar can be fairly judged.
 
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Look forward to your balanced, glass half full posts following the Duke and UConn games.

“This is why we schedule these games.”

Coming on the heels of the 2025 embarassment at Duke and 0-3 vs. UConn in last 3 seasons, I’m glad we’ll all be able to draw on the positives of playing tough opponents in tough environments without our best player.

This board is going to have a rough 2.5 months till our next chance at a marquee win vs. USC in late January.

Nothing to disagree with here 🤝
 
#386      
Tomi’s complete lack of development is frustrating. The fact he can’t get a damn rebound to save his life really hurts us.
It is pretty astounding how Tomi was so much better two years ago. What the hell happened? He's fine, but he's just a guy now. Nothing special. And Z. Yeesh.
 
#387      
It is pretty astounding how Tomi was so much better two years ago. What the hell happened? He's fine, but he's just a guy now. Nothing special. And Z. Yeesh.

think what happened was the teams got better, other guys took usage/shot attempts

maybe evan miya is drunk but he has tomi 6th in the country in bpr rating (he claims to have over 120 division one teams subscribed to his site)

three point percentage went down 4% pts last year but two point percentage went up 11% pts free throw percentage went up 3% pts

he also fought through multiple illnesses and injuries last year

i dunno he's averaging almost double his career assist numbers so far this year
 
#388      
Tomi’s complete lack of development is frustrating. The fact he can’t get a damn rebound to save his life really hurts us.
It is pretty astounding how Tomi was so much better two years ago. What the hell happened? He's fine, but he's just a guy now. Nothing special. And Z. Yeesh.
Be honest: it’s just the shooting.

…..

Tomi shot 35.7% from 3pt in 2025.

Last year, that percentage dropped to 31.3%.

If he shoots 35% again, I don’t think anyone will be complaining.

….

Z is the same thing. He shot 37.6% at Arkansas.

Last year he was 28%. But most of all, he’s 3 for his last 39.

I think everyone will love Z if he replicates his Arkansas percentage.
 
#389      
Tomi seems to be the Loyalty punching bag.

He’s been on 3 teams thus far, one went to the tourney and won a game, the other a final four, and this year TBD obviously.

Each year, we have played drastically different. The names and styles have changed around him, yet he’s been able to adapt and produce.

he’s gonna go down as one of the all time winners here. And the luxury he’s afforded the staff to adjust (gasp!) has been wildly invaluable.

He’s not perfect, but as a player, if I took a backseat so other guys could shine, and the team win, only for my fanbase to constantly go at me… let’s just say there’s some toughness to that
 
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It's interesting how many internet commenters say Tomi is bad, but then the coach turns around and says that he was outstanding and his leadership was incredible. Also, the guy continues to show up on NBA draft boards. It's really confusing, I'm not sure who to believe....

In all seriousness, it's almost like people don't watch the games and just stare at the ESPN app stats. The guy is all over the floor making winning plays or setting the table for others. We've watched him make countless plays in important moments that swing momentum or bring us back into a game. What is the barometer for success? To go out and get 25 and 12 while also shooting 35% on volume for three? I don't think you'll find another big in CBB that can do that.

It's like the BH thing all over again. I'm not sure why some fans always need a target to throw negativity at...

Edit: I'm not necessarily being critical of anyone here asking the question of where the development is, it's a fair question but definitely arguable, to @EmeraldCityIllini 's point about how consistently flexible he's been, and could go down as an all-time winner here. The thing that I can't wrap my head around is being a fan-hater like this YouTube comment. It's almost like you're setting yourself up to have to keep hating on a guy just to vindicate your crappy take.
 
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He has to be a top 10 pick? 2nd best player on a final four team counts for nothing? Dang man tough crowd haha
lol It counts but not as in a "look we develop big men" People want to get to the league. We have yet to shown we can put a big in the league
 
#392      
Skimmed through this thread so apologize if already mentioned but regarding rebounding, there is a lot to say about physical strength. Especially in the lower body. Certainly being several inches taller than others, like the twins, will get you some rebounds (assuming Z is even near the basket). However, lower body leverage is huge. It is why Bam was so effective against many players much taller than him…he had such a strong base and used it well.
 
#394      
Wish I could show half as much tact as others here, but the discourse on guys like Ben H and Tomi gets pretty gross and so I enjoy giving it back with the same tonality.
You gotta counteract the negativity haha it's so easy to be a hater but Brad has said countless times how tough this guy is, how much he works and how he's the first guy in the gym every day. If this guy is putting this much effort into willing the team I love to succeed, then you have to show some love. Hopefully the positive comments make their way to these guys as much as the negative ones do.
 
#396      
I’ve aired my frustrations. There are plenty of positives. We all know Quentin Coleman is insanely talented, but there is more to it than that. He is a fighter, he competes like few guys I’ve ever seen, and he leaves absolutely everything he has on the floor. Injuries and literally vomiting on the floor and he kept coming back and fighting like his life depended on it.

Lincoln Williams is far from a perfect player, but that guy plays HARD! That’s all I ask. Some other dudes need to watch and learn and up the intensity and fight and just general competitive fire.

Do that and everything will be fine.
 
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