The “It Could Be Worse” Thread

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Curbelo Fanboy
Point-Illinois said:
They are a direct competitor, I’ll care about it like I care about anything that could affect Illinois.

And man, I really wouldn’t mind some of his hubris turning into humility.
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Some of that hubris will get humbled in Eugene in a couple weeks.
 
#54      
altgeld88
mattcoldagelli said:
Ready to take wagers that Cignetti retires in Bloomington. I think you guys are misreading him - he doesn't want to join the CFB elite, he wants to continue spitefully sticking it in their eye.
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I'm with you. He has hooked Memorial Stadium up to a high-voltage line on game days. I grew up going to Ohio State games. The atmosphere in Bloomington Saturday night was about as frenzied as I've experienced.

He's what, 62? Look at what he has done in merely 16 games. It's a pleasant town and he's on a pedestal. Anyone who saw the pregame scene in Bloomington, from campus town to the sea of tailgaters around the stadium, can't possibly have been anything but seriously impressed.

Why would he leave?
 
#55      
aiwpfan
altgeld88 said:
I'm with you. He has hooked Memorial Stadium up to a high-voltage line on game days. I grew up going to Ohio State games. The atmosphere in Bloomington Saturday night was about as frenzied as I've experienced.

He's what, 62? Look at what he has done in merely 16 games. It's a pleasant town and he's on a pedestal. Anyone who saw the pregame scene in Bloomington, from campus town to the sea of tailgaters around the stadium, can't possibly have been anything but seriously impressed.

Why would he leave?
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64, actually. He's eligible for Medicare next year.
 
#56      
cuillini
Illini2010-11 said:
-Can't forget about the dumpster fire at UCLA.
-The major vibe shift at Oklahoma State (got humiliated against Oregon and then lost at home to Tulsa).
-Our Citrus Bowl foe in South Carolina is struggling out the gate

We aren't alone in the disappointment arena for sure.
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And Gundy was fired today. They've fallen so far, so fast.
 
#57      
Illiniguy74
I like CBB and think he's a good coach. That said, the whole "build a statue" was overdone.
 
#58      
Brosky
I don't care what Cignetti does. I still can't fathom that IU has SO much money to spend in the portal. I care what BB does. I still think we're in good shape there.
 
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Illiniguy13
altgeld88 said:
I'm with you. He has hooked Memorial Stadium up to a high-voltage line on game days. I grew up going to Ohio State games. The atmosphere in Bloomington Saturday night was about as frenzied as I've experienced.

He's what, 62? Look at what he has done in merely 16 games. It's a pleasant town and he's on a pedestal. Anyone who saw the pregame scene in Bloomington, from campus town to the sea of tailgaters around the stadium, can't possibly have been anything but seriously impressed.

Why would he leave?
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It's a good question. Initially I was certain he'd be gawn after this season irregardless of his extension, but I didn't realize he was 64. He has a good situation. I suppose at the end of the day, if coaching a bigger program is meaningful to him, it's close to a now-or-never scenario. I'm imagine a school like Florida or some other football school would back the truck up for him. Considering his prowess, the state of Big10 football & IU's general schedule, it seems like half the games IU plays in a given year are cupcakes(or damn near it). Is he satisfied beating up on the Old Dominions, FIU's and Northwestern's of the world only to fall short against the Tier 1 Big10 programs? It seems like he's reached his ceiling in Bloomington, but who knows - maybe that's satisfactory for him at this stage of life.
 
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the juiceman cometh
Illiniguy13 said:
It's a good question. Initially I was certain he'd be gawn after this season irregardless of his extension, but I didn't realize he was 64. He has a good situation. I suppose at the end of the day, if coaching a bigger program is meaningful to him, it's close to a now-or-never scenario. I'm imagine a school like Florida or some other football school would back the truck up for him. Considering his prowess, the state of Big10 football & IU's general schedule, it seems like half the games IU plays in a given year are cupcakes(or damn near it). Is he satisfied beating up on the Old Dominions, FIU's and Northwestern's of the world only to fall short against the Tier 1 Big10 programs? It seems like he's reached his ceiling in Bloomington, but who knows - maybe that's satisfactory for him at this stage of life.
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Not sure why you're coming to that conclusion. This is his second year. He's already made the college football playoff once, seems primed to make it again, and just beat a top-10 team by 53 points. In his second year. He hasn't even gotten to reap the recruiting benefits of his success so far. Why would he have reached his ceiling already? I'm pretty sure for the most part this board doesn't think Bret has reached his ceiling here, and he's in year 5. I am positive that Cignetti believes he can win a national championship at IU. He has just the right amount of arrogance to believe that, and unfortunately, just maybe, may have the right kind of arrogance to make it true.
 
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Illiniguy13
the juiceman cometh said:
Not sure why you're coming to that conclusion. This is his second year. He's already made the college football playoff once, seems primed to make it again, and just beat a top-10 team by 53 points. In his second year. He hasn't even gotten to reap the recruiting benefits of his success so far. Why would he have reached his ceiling already? I'm pretty sure for the most part this board doesn't think Bret has reached his ceiling here, and he's in year 5. I am positive that Cignetti believes he can win a national championship at IU. He has just the right amount of arrogance to believe that, and unfortunately, just maybe, may have the right kind of arrogance to make it true.
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I'll change my tune on this if he starts beating Penn State, Oregon's and OSU or making it deeper into the playoffs. I think irregardless of how awesome of a coach he is, he's going to find his teams lack the overall talent compared to the big boys and that's just something that isn't likely going to shift in his limited time remaining in the profession. And no, even in the new landscape of NIL I don’t think the shift is quite as sudden as some believe. Big football brands still have pull to recruits even if the other side can also fork up $. If he was 54 and not 64, I'd think otherwise. It’s just conjecture, time will tell.
 
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OrangeBlue98
I agree 100% that the eventual Florida opening will be a significant litmus test for the current state of the sport. 10 years ago, it would pretty much be a lead-pipe cinch for Cignetti to leave IU for Florida.
 
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Illini2010-11
Illiniguy13 said:
I'll change my tune on this if he starts beating Penn State, Oregon's and OSU or making it deeper into the playoffs. I think irregardless of how awesome of a coach he is, he's going to find his teams lack the overall talent compared to the big boys and that's just something that isn't likely going to shift in his limited time remaining in the profession. And no, even in the new landscape of NIL I don’t think the shift is quite as sudden as some believe. Big football brands still have pull to recruits even if the other side can also fork up $. If he was 54 and not 64, I'd think otherwise. It’s just conjecture, time will tell.
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#68      
BrownTown
mattcoldagelli said:
For the people still not realizing the CFB world has permanently shifted, Curt Cignetti telling Florida to get bent will be the lightbulb moment.
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Money, donors, etc in Indiana may be nice.

You could never leave your state recruiting wise and put together a CFP team every year in Florida if Cignetti is the coach that we think he is. That's a wagon that could pull itself, so to speak.
 
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STLini25
I think Cignetti will retire from Indiana. He’s only coaching 5-10 more years. He likely has top 15 (maybe 10) teams in back to back seasons. Indiana is a top 25 job in the country (in the P2 with plenty of support and fanbase). Maybe he has a dream list of a couple schools (maybe Alabama and a couple more or maybe he’s decided to retire from Indiana and be their greatest coach ever) but he’s not leaving for a currently lesser job like UNC. I think there are only 2 or 3 jobs that would even make him think about leaving Indiana. He can win at Indiana and be all 4 people on the Mount Rushmore of Indiana football.
 
#72      
Brosky
It's hard for me to agree with this; I saw a boatload or talent (including a truly elite quarterback) when the Hoosiers beat the sh*t out of us.
 
#73      
Illiniguy13
STLini25 said:
I think Cignetti will retire from Indiana. He’s only coaching 5-10 more years. He likely has top 15 (maybe 10) teams in back to back seasons. Indiana is a top 25 job in the country (in the P2 with plenty of support and fanbase). Maybe he has a dream list of a couple schools (maybe Alabama and a couple more or maybe he’s decided to retire from Indiana and be their greatest coach ever) but he’s not leaving for a currently lesser job like UNC. I think there are only 2 or 3 jobs that would even make him think about leaving Indiana. He can win at Indiana and be all 4 people on the Mount Rushmore of Indiana football.
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Genuinely asking, is Indiana really a top 25 job in the country? I'm no expert, but it seems like IU is one of the few schools who have had a worse history than us over the past 30 years. I get Cignetti has driven a ton of new fan support, they're on the map now and is a very cushiony job. But IU football?
 
#74      
Illwinsagain
STLini25 said:
I think Cignetti will retire from Indiana. He’s only coaching 5-10 more years. He likely has top 15 (maybe 10) teams in back to back seasons. Indiana is a top 25 job in the country (in the P2 with plenty of support and fanbase). Maybe he has a dream list of a couple schools (maybe Alabama and a couple more or maybe he’s decided to retire from Indiana and be their greatest coach ever) but he’s not leaving for a currently lesser job like UNC. I think there are only 2 or 3 jobs that would even make him think about leaving Indiana. He can win at Indiana and be all 4 people on the Mount Rushmore of Indiana football.
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I found this funny.
 
#75      
STLini25
Illiniguy13 said:
Genuinely asking, is Indiana really a top 25 job in the country? I'm no expert, but it seems like IU is one of the few schools who have had a worse history than us over the past 30 years. I get Cignetti has driven a ton of new fan support, they're on the map now and is a very cushiony job. But IU football?
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Any evaluation of best jobs in CFB has to be done post NIL not pre NIL. In addition, most/all of the top 40 jobs are in the BT and SEC. All schools (except ND) outside of BT and SEC are at pretty significant risk.
 
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