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Drew or Bryce - either one is OK by me. Saying this without reading the most recent 10 pages of meltdown.
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Seriously... I hope and I am confident that "the optics" of hiring someone who lost a tournament game to northwestern has zero to do with Josh Whitman's decision on our coach. Pick the best coach who can get us there long term. If he can save our recruiting class all the better, but like a lot of the short term !!!! that people are referencing, that isn't close to the top consideration. And losing a game to northwestern is not a consideration AT ALL.
Vandy lost 2 NBA first rounders from last year's team.
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I am trying to put things in perspective. I know the initial thoughts were that we needed to go BIG, a la Lovie, but, really, any of the coaches being discussed are an upgrade, and an upgrade with great promise. The ONLY one that never moved my needle was Martin. And about him, I say - go on ahead to Mizzou, and make them a better team...it will only give us a stronger non-conference win every year.
Last year, wasn't a lot of people on board with hiring Bryce Drew as HC had Groce been fired?
Jank's plenty awful and completely uninteresting.
It's not just the multitasking though. It's also the timing and especially the buyout. We're talking 600+ thousand for what is a non-revenue sport for us and only 1 year remaining on the contract. Add to the fact that he was fired after 2 weeks after their last game. That screams to me Whitman cleared his schedule and decided they have a lot of extra cash to play around with.
I'm not saying it's a definite, but I think the evidence is there.
People freaking out about Bryce Drew...are you serious? He's one of the best coaches out there. You freak out because you saw him lose one game to Northwestern with players he didn't recruit? If he comes and brings Roger Powel, and retains Walker on his staff, he could do great things at Illinois. This is a very real scenario. TB stays at UVA, Archie takes Indiana job, Keatts goes to NCState, and Marshall stays at Wichita
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My problem with Drew isn't that he lost to NW. He walked into a great situation at Valpo and kept it there, he walked into an okay situation at Vandy and kept it there. To me, Drew is just a guy to improve the program, but I'm not sure how high the ceiling is with him. Keatts, is a future star IMO.
Just for the people freaking about drew all of a sudden too, I know valpo loved him. And I saw some vandy fans very worried he'll leave after one year too. Saying he's made a positive impact and how he would be missed. It's from comments on the link of the twitter the guy reported above. So if it is him, welcome it and don't judge him on one game. Judge on a body of work.
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- Cary, IL
This, yes
Don't get me wrong. I prefer Keatts over drew too. But I still think drew is a fit for sure.
Not sure you want to take that train. You'll be crying lately thinking about the world as it is.
But you might want to get your bags together, go bring your good friends, too
'cause it's getting nearer, it soon will be with you.
Maybe it will arrive Monday?
Well, to me thsat indicates a good coach.....
He didn't recruit the players.......they couldn't play his style so he adapted to a style they could succeed in. As he gets his players, he will play his system.
Took over a team that lost 2 1st Round Draft Picks and was not overly talented....yet still made the tournament.
He didn't recruit the players.......they couldn't play his style so he adapted to a style they could succeed in. As he gets his players, he will play his system.
Took over a team that lost 2 1st Round Draft Picks and was not overly talented....yet still made the tournament.
I've been aboard the KEATTS HYPE TRAIN, WOOO-WOOO! for awhile now so while it would be a little bit of a bummer to not have that "big name" I would be ecstatic with Keatts (or Drew, not so much Jankovich).
And adjusted as the season went along.
They were 8-10. And then beat Arkansas, South Carolina, Iowa State, and Florida not once, not twice, but thrice.
One season is one season. You look at the whole resume. But this Vandy year certainly does nothing to dissuade you from the idea that Drew is the real thing.
Please be a real insider. That list is
And if we don't bother with the humiliating nonsense with coaches we can't get, that would show tremendous command of the process by Whitman.
Not that that really matters, the key is getting someone we can build with, and all three of those guys qualify.
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So Jankovich with Judson and Jerrance on staff?
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Joe Dooley?
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And if we don't bother with the humiliating nonsense with coaches we can't get, that would show tremendous command of the process by Whitman.
Not that that really matters, the key is getting someone we can build with, and all three of those guys qualify.
Not to be too argumentative with you S&C, but what makes you think you can build with Drew? He's never really had to. His dad left him a good situation at Valpo, and he had a decent year this year at Vandy. I'm not sure if he's a coach who you win a NC with.
I agree with you that Keatts is better. In fact, I've been on the Keatts train for at least 2 months now. I'm just looking at the realistic targets and I think people need to get used to the fact that Illinois may not be yet at the level to attract the likes of Archie, TB, Marshall. Keatts is from the Virginia area and may want to stay close by taking the NCState job. He's already in Carolina anyway. So that leaves us with a different tier of candidates of which I think Bryce Drew has a lot of potential.
I obviously want Keatts, but would not be mad at all with Bryce Drew. In fact, I'd be happy with a Bryce Drew. So much potential.
Bryce Drew who will have his Bulls jersey hanging in his house when recruits pay him a visit, mind you.
All things considered I would pick Keatts as the stronger likelier recruiter, but that's all guesswork.
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