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I knew I had read these details before, but this was just posted today on X...
 
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In an even smaller nutshell, this season, teams are a lot more evenly matched than usual.
today nut GIF

So bluebloods, watch out. We are coming for you.
 
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There's not a team in the entire country that doesn't have major question marks, imho.

This is going to make for one EPIC tournament. Lots of teams are going to have a real legit shot. Tournament seeding will never have less importance than what it will this year. (And I hope things stay that way in the future. I don't like the 'Super Teams' era. Boring and exclusionary).

And coaching and strategizing will take on even greater importance. And even with all that... things will always come down to who's got the hot shooting touch on any given day and who can't play defense.

Tears of shock and tears of joy at stake with the margin between them paper thin.
 
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Read her words. "Charging survivors and victims with a crime of false reporting " False reporting is knowingly and intentionally reporting a crime knowing it is false inducing law enforcement to act on it....or something close to that. By definition they are not survivors or victims they are liars using our criminal justice system to try and ruin someone's life. Make no mistake about what you are dealing with here
The quoted wording seems to be talking about FALSELY charging ACTUAL victims with the crime of false reporting.
 
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This is going to make for one EPIC tournament. Lots of teams are going to have a real legit shot. Tournament seeding will never have less importance than what it will this year. (And I hope things stay that way in the future. I don't like the 'Super Teams' era. Boring and exclusionary).

And coaching and strategizing will take on even greater importance. And even with all that... things will always come down to who's got the hot shooting touch on any given day and who can't play defense.

Tears of shock and tears of joy at stake with the margin between them paper thin.

It is and has been a different era of college hoops for a while. Long gone are the days of teams with multiple NBA players who stay and play together for multiple years. You used to be able to pick out 4-5 “super teams” at the beginning of each year and it was a shock if at least 3 of them didn’t make it to the F4. That meant some true heavyweight fights, typically beginning in the E8 that were super entertaining.

With this era if you played the same tournament 100 times, you would likely get 100 different F4s, with no single team making it more than maybe 15-20 times. Which is a very different type of entertaining than the super teams era, but very entertaining nonetheless.

To me, CBB has always been about fun with the regional rivalries, the larger than life coaches, and the Cinderella stories. And so I say let chaos reign. I don’t know that I would call the super teams era boring, but I think this era is more fun. JMHO.
 
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The quoted wording seems to be talking about FALSELY charging ACTUAL victims with the crime of false reporting.
As a poster previously reported this may have been in reference to a specific case where bringing false reporting charges was too aggressive. Good to see nothing has changed in Douglas County, they still know all about overly aggressive prosecutions
 
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AyoDos11

Southern Illinois
We knew it would eventually come to this, perhaps. Does the federal ruling in the TSJ case set precedent for whether this LSU player is eligible to play?

LSU player charged with attempted murder
IANAL, but I would say two people getting shot is way different than a rape charge based on one person's testimony. I don't think his lawyers would advise him to pursue a TRO against LSU.
 
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IANAL, but I would say two people getting shot is way different than a rape charge based on one person's testimony. I don't think his lawyers would advise him to pursue a TRO against LSU.
And LSU can likely suspend him from classes and bar him from campus in the interest of safety while any due process occurs. Because UIUC chose not to pursue such discipline against TSJ, it was clear that any harm to UIUC caused by TJS playing basketball was reputational at most.
 
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IANAL, but I would say two people getting shot is way different than a rape charge based on one person's testimony. I don't think his lawyers would advise him to pursue a TRO against LSU.
And LSU can likely suspend him from classes and bar him from campus in the interest of safety while any due process occurs. Because UIUC chose not to pursue such discipline against TSJ, it was clear that any harm to UIUC caused by TJS playing basketball was reputational at most.
But it still comes down to a case of is the student-athlete being given his due process by the university before his legal proceedings play out. It seems, based on the TSJ ruling, that the nature of the crime is irrelevant as opposed to whether the university is prematurely presuming guilt by suspending him.

Naturally, there are differences in the cases themselves, but the issues seem parallel.
 
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But it still comes down to a case of is the student-athlete being given his due process by the university before his legal proceedings play out. It seems, based on the TSJ ruling, that the nature of the crime is irrelevant as opposed to whether the university is prematurely presuming guilt by suspending him.

Naturally, there are differences in the cases themselves, but the issues seem parallel.
Since it was a preliminary injunction, the judge did not make a final ruling that TSJ's rights were violated. Instead, she merely was deciding whether there was some likelihood of that argument winning in court. But after that, she also had to agree that he was likely to suffer irreparable harm, that the balance of equities tipped in his favor, and that the injunction was in the public interest. Those other factors might be very different in an attempted murder case.

Just as some defendants are denied bail (despite a presumption of innocence) in the interest of public safety, there are likely situations where a university is justified to remove a potentially dangerous person from campus. UIUC was not even attempting that, and the judge mentioned that in her assessment of the potential harm to the university.
 
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