Ty Rodgers to take redshirt year
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You'll make another one.
Any idea what he's getting paid this year? Thought I saw $300k. Still don't understand how 2 parties make a deal/ commitment, and then 1 party decides..." Naw, I'm not going to play this year. But still pay me my $$". This seems very unethical. Sky, Sincere, Ty...who will it be next year?
People who have Ty's best interest
Having too much talent is bad, apparently.
LOL. I guess you’ve decided you lost the “Ty not getting 20+ minutes is a bad look for recruiting” argument since your last two replies to my posts keep changing the subject.
First, I’ve never mentioned Tre. Second, it’s not a Ty vs Tre argument. It’s Ty versus other front court players. Third, if Ty had better efficiency ratings (and I have no reason to doubt your assertion), those numbers were accomplished on a previous team(s). This year’s team is not last year’s. Ty was never going to be used in the same way as he was last year. That’s not what this team needs. Fourth, my “proof” is that BU evidently feels that this team team will be better with other front court players picking up the extra 10 minutes or so that you believe are owed to Ty for being on the team last year.
Like I said in another post, I wish Ty hadn’t made the decision he did. Maybe BU was hasty in his decision about what Ty’s role should be this year, and Ty would have proved him wrong. But we’ll never know because Ty decided to save a year of eligibility rather than try and earn more minutes during course of season. I harbor no ill will toward him for making that decision. He has to do what he feels is best for him. Just like Brad needs to do what he feels is best for this team when determining roles. And Brad has a pretty good track record doing just that.
Ya I’m super disappointed with all this because Ty rocks…. but honestly if he’s my kid I’m probably going to give him the same advice. Athletes have a very short window in which to monetize their talent. They need to do what they can to maximize those earning in that window. Ty seems like a good dude so I hope he lives in the gym all year, develops a J and gets absolutely paid the next few years.
(Then comes back and coached for us someday. ILL)
I don't mean to pick on you, others have said the same sorta thing... but it doesn't make sense to me. This past offseason was the wettest example of "recruiting is fluid" in CBB history.
I doubt BU even ever thought, "My next recruit needs to be 'over' Ty Rodgers." He was probably thinking, "I'd better get a damn move on or I'm not gonna have a full roster!" (And of course he's gonna try to get the best dudes he can.)
We happen to have the good fortune of having an extremely competent coach, so it turned out he got a lot of good dudes!
Also, isn't it a bit early to say White won't be more valuable than Ty when it comes to winning ball games?
Sure I will. But I’ll miss his effort and willingness to support the team
and, even though you didnt mention Tre, the same can obviously said for his efficiency numbers on his last team as well.
Lol
Yeah recruiting over someone has certainly hurt the blue bloods like Duke, NC, Alabama and Kentucky. You want to be elite you have to do what elite programs do. The teams listed earlier don't hesitate to try to improve and illinois shouldn't either...poor Ty...you want playing time? Beat those other guys out!
If I had had the chance to stick five or six figures into my bank account before college graduation, it would have been life changing. So yeah, I think Ty is taking care of his financial future while also giving his professional aspirations the best chance to be achieved. I wish him luck (and rigorous financial discipline.)
Brad is dealing with this gracefully, and that impresses recruits and possible transfers.
We're going to end up with the best 7-8 playing all the meaningful minutes, so Brad's mission hasn't changed. I'm not sure how impactful this decision will be on that result.
I appreciate Ty but let's dont act as if he has lived up to expectations. Ty is not a lock down defender or an uber skilled player like a Rodman type in all areas besides shooting. I trust our coaches to evaluate the talent. I am not so easily convinced Ty is better than Tre White at any aspect until I see more on the court at Illinois. I know LaTulip says they are very similar in many areas except shooting the ball where Tre is better. I tend to agree with Latulip. Ty struggled on defense at times too. Ty was a very good offensive rebounder but I have not seen enough yet to say Tre or others can't be to and also provide a threat to score and spread the floor which Ty unfortunately just can't do.
I don't disagree that this is the reality of college basketball/sports now and that in real life. Now that there is $ involved, it's fair to be treated like a pro player where you either perform or you're "out". I just also am thinking about this as a fan of college sports where investment into players was more than just year to year. In the NBA we now no longer expect players to stay loyal to a team but rather the almighty dollar/championship. I am just nostalgic for those players that have given their loyalty to Illinois and may not feel the same loyalty back. Again, NIL has changed this entire calculus, but I'm still not yet fully comfortable with it where we have a player like Ty having to make a decision like this. BU is a genius and I believe we will have a crazy successful team (so much so I have a bet with Vegas on the Illini to win the entire thing!) this year.
Transfers to Mich St and is an All American his senior year, hitting 42% from 3
My guess is he wants to make the NBA as most college players do. He also probably knows his shooting needs to be >>> much, much better to get there.
We can debate & will & have what the chances are of that happening (maybe very small vs 2 x very small, but probably higher in his eyes) - but with an extra year the chance of developing an NBA level shot get better, in the meantime, he collects an extra year of NIL, an extra year of education, an extra year of free room & board.
Will he leave after a year, probably...but I expect him to hang around for awhile/probably all year and see where things stand before he makes that decision, if he ends up finishing up for us it is likely that he has improved & fills a bigger need. If he doesn't, it opens up NIL for a replacement.
You forgot that he ends up a lottery pick in the NBA draft, after the NBA guys currently on our roster all fall to the 2nd round.
I think this is the best outcome of an unfortunate situation TBH...
-If Ty is planning to stick around and work on his game, that's awesome, DGL sat his entire first year effectively and he's now looking like he's going to be a force.
-If Ty is planning to leave, I'm glad that he is able to get his NIL $$ and work on his game while helping the team/preparing for his next destination. I would feel bad if he found out he wasn't going to be playing as much going forward and he couldn't get his $$ if he redshirted. The University has money and I look at this as a moral cleanse where everyone can come out with something in a rough spot.
-If Ty is planning to stick around and work on his game, that's awesome, DGL sat his entire first year effectively and he's now looking like he's going to be a force.
-If Ty is planning to leave, I'm glad that he is able to get his NIL $$ and work on his game while helping the team/preparing for his next destination. I would feel bad if he found out he wasn't going to be playing as much going forward and he couldn't get his $$ if he redshirted. The University has money and I look at this as a moral cleanse where everyone can come out with something in a rough spot.
Is it possible he's getting paid (NIL) as a redshirt (or maybe even given more to stick around on the bench), and the "sell" is that he will make himself and the team better in practice, stay as a glue guy who knows the system better than anyone else on the team, improves his bargaining power for more NIL money or NBA bites with another year of eligibility, and maintains the possibility of coming back and gaining all the IL fan respect to stick with the team and/or cash out somewhere else the following year a la Coleman.
Battle89
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Driving to East Lansing in a Chevy Blazer bought with Illinois NIL money. All his replacements portal-ing out or being drafted. Tomi is retroactively disqualified due to accepting a hamburger during our recruitment of him.
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Edit: had you said "cottage cheese"......automatic trophy.
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