UCLA 95, Illinois 94 OT Postgame
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This scenario right here is between slim and none and I'm leaning heavily towards none.
There are posters who point out flaws of the team and staff even through wins.
Even if we got the W, I’m willing to bet the loss of another lead, defensive inefficiencies, and bad coaching and playing would have still been topics.
He should be asking that "When is enough enough?" question about his own performance yesterday rather than focusing so much on our players' performances. Specifically, he should be asking this about his distribution of Z's minutes on the bench and his distribution of Tomi's ineffective second half minutes on the court.
KB and Wagler switched as they indbounded the ball. Or are you saying KB should have stayed with him and double-teamed him?
I was more frustrated with Stojakovic not forcing Dent against the sideline and instead letting him get the shortest path through the middle to the basket
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Just missing that killer instinct up 23 points early. Then playing casual/optional defense the rest of the way only to give up an uncontested layup at the end. That's brutal. I think this mindset just a couple weeks from the tourney means we aren't in the right place. We should be fine-tuning, not missing basic, fundamental basketball presence. I think THAT's what we're all frustrated with. Onward we go!
Probably. But would have rightfully been secondary to “we just went 2-0 on our LA trip, and are in a spot for no worse than 2nd in the Big Ten, and still have a 1 seed path and we’re talking about how bad the coaching is?”
23 is obviously a tad extreme, but we started out like 7-11 from 3 and they were something like 1-8 - the lead was always gonna dwindle to a degree. Unless UCLA quit, which I guess was a non zero chance.
I am clearly still pissed off. Zvonimir only played 17 minutes last night. He had 11 points, 3 rebounds, and 2 blocks. He needs to rebound at a higher rate, but he played well in his minutes
We have to have him out there for around 20 minutes or so for his defensive ability. When he’s not out there players don’t even think before getting into the lane.
We have to have him out there for around 20 minutes or so for his defensive ability. When he’s not out there players don’t even think before getting into the lane.
We harp on this every year. And I agree with you. But Brad refuses to change his analytical style
The best teams are not shooting 35 threes a game
We obviously weren't going to continue outscoring them at the same rate, but I didn't think the lead was obviously going to dwindle. I would have been just fine with it dwindling some by the end, but giving it up so quickly was extremely tough to watch
Yes. KB never should have left him .So bizarre the instant give up by him on a full court play with under 5 seconds. Any pass at all from Dent (or a forced change of direction/hesitation) and UCLA is heaving a long distance prayer.
Lots of blame to go around on the play but it starts with KB with the players on the floor.
He and the staff were probably a bit hesitant af5er he limped off to the locker room. Dude gets beat every time he drives with very few fos called.
1000%
The 11 straight field goals and end to the half where we could have been up 12-13 and instead 7 was a joke.
I don’t care how tough a few of the ucla shots were
I don't think we know if that was KB's decision or the coaches', do we?
I would love to know what the assignments were supposed to be when Dent passed half court and Wagler got screened.
Was Stojakovic really supposed to drift backwards and towards the sideline with his back to the basket? Perhaps so, and Kylan was supposed to get back to guard the middle (or that Wagler could run under the screen and guard the middle) to deny Dent's drive? If so, maybe it's just easy to say in hindsight that's not a good plan. Maybe it would have worked if Kylan had gotten back quicker, or Wagler hadn't been taken out by the screen (was there bad communication on that, or did Wagler not listen, or was that not part of the plan?)
It seems like a much simpler plan to force the ball handler along the sideline. To do that, Stojakovic should stay on Dent's right hip, making sure he can't cut to the middle. Worst case, Dent still gets around him, but in a longer arc to the basket that takes more time off the clock, gives other defenders more time to get between Dent and the basket, and might force a running jumper or late pass with no time to shoot. If that was the plan and Stoj drifted too far to the sideline, then that might make Bos look bad when Bos was trying to get back to a different assignment altogether (like trapping Dent at the baseline or cutting off a pass to a cutter/shooter).
Doing something to disrupt the inbounds pass could also eat some time if Dent can't catch it in stride. There's probably some tradeoff of allowing long passes though, so I'm not going to make too big of a deal about that.
The points per possession talk is confusing for me. Can someone give our average for the season so I can remember?
If Andrej would have stepped up into the gap between the screener and the sideline, that would have likely forced Dent back toward Keaton (or draw a charge!). (Yes, the screener would have been free to roll for an deep uncontested three, but our chances would have been better.) Not faulting Andrej there, but let's think about it for next time.
that is the way it should be called, but often not
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note: points per 100 poss is the same thing as points per poss; just times 100.
Nope. Plenty of blame to go around.(Players and coaches)
KB, as the senior leader of team, should say "I got Dent" there IMO. Made zero sense there to switch off immediately like it was a normal middle of the game defensive set. The clock was their best friend there. Got to know the situation. A forced pass from Dent (or impeding his progress at any point) there and the game is over....worst case, a much much more difficult, longer distance shot.
It started with the free release. If going to pick up full court....pick up full court. Don't half !!! it which is what they did (coaches and/or players)
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I think Ben was the biggest to blame no idea what he was doing. Going full court the options were so limited. I would have put 2 on Dent, and kept guysc lose on Tyler B and Perry. But once he got to halfcourt he wasn't passing it anyway.
I watched the game … I rewatched the game …
I have a couple thoughts …
Great teams don’t piss away a 23 point lead …
Great teams don’t make people question their effort …
AS … HORRIBLE … Missed box outs, I counted 11 on the film … That’s unacceptable … Missing FTs … You wanna get paid like an Alpha … Better be an Alpha !!!!! You don’t just get to show up when you want to …
Bam … Dent took belt to
… Tell your coaches/teammates you’ve got Dent … No switching … No nonsense … And if you are who you say you are and who I know you are … LOCK … HIS … … UP … Let someone else beat you …
I don’t even need to break down the last play … Absolutely pathetic … Knowing how to defend that scenario is REC LEAGUE
!!!!! THE EXACT SAME THING WE LET TENNESSEE DO !!!!!!!!
I have a couple thoughts …
Great teams don’t piss away a 23 point lead …
Great teams don’t make people question their effort …
AS … HORRIBLE … Missed box outs, I counted 11 on the film … That’s unacceptable … Missing FTs … You wanna get paid like an Alpha … Better be an Alpha !!!!! You don’t just get to show up when you want to …
Bam … Dent took belt to
… Tell your coaches/teammates you’ve got Dent … No switching … No nonsense … And if you are who you say you are and who I know you are … LOCK … HIS … … UP … Let someone else beat you …I don’t even need to break down the last play … Absolutely pathetic … Knowing how to defend that scenario is REC LEAGUE
!!!!! THE EXACT SAME THING WE LET TENNESSEE DO !!!!!!!!- Status