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They are and always have been scored differently. You don't combine them.Yeah! Don't be distracted by the silly fact that you are literally turning the ball over to the other team on downs!!
It's clearly a lostover! You lost the ball over on downs! Or maybe a youdonthavetheballanymoreover, because you don't have the ball anymore silly goose!
Or how 'bout a gaveitupover! You gave the ball up doofuses!
2 separate items.
Someone, please, show me a box score where a turnover on downs is listed in the turnover line item.
Tx had 1 turnover. That's it.
For whatever reason I've seen people start combining the 2 this year. Never seen it before. Why?
Illini in Italy
- Illini HQ, Florida Panhandle
I kinda agree with you. Using the logic that the turnover on downs is a "turnover", then punting the ball away is also a "turnover" . . .
This reminded me so much of our game vs UNC during Lovie's first year. It wasn't the opener, but we played a cupcake week 1 so it was the first "real" game of the season. I made the trip up to Champaign and the atmosphere was better than it had been in such a long time. "WE ARE SO BACK" We took an early lead and the vibes were insane. And then, BOOM. It was over.
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
Yes; however, they cared back when the team was competitive. Winning solves some, if not all, attendance problems.
Rarely does a week one deliver such a bounty for hate watchers / schadenfreude.
- Kalen DeBoer’s Alabama looked slow and unprepared. Calls for his head 14 games into his tenure.
- Arch Manning exposed as not quite the Heismann favorite ESPN built him up to be.
- Army loses at home in a buy game to Tarelton State
- Bill Belichick and Matt Patricia proving yet again they’re worthless without Tommy Brady and a favorable whistle.
For fans of chaos and of watching dynasties fall this was an amazing start to the season.
- Kalen DeBoer’s Alabama looked slow and unprepared. Calls for his head 14 games into his tenure.
- Arch Manning exposed as not quite the Heismann favorite ESPN built him up to be.
- Army loses at home in a buy game to Tarelton State
- Bill Belichick and Matt Patricia proving yet again they’re worthless without Tommy Brady and a favorable whistle.
For fans of chaos and of watching dynasties fall this was an amazing start to the season.
I was at the UNC game that night.Yes it was a great atmosphere.
hooraybeer
- Peoria, IL
“we need you (as our RB4). You’re the missing piece (on our practice squad)”
sad but ultimately an adult that made a financial decision
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The good news is that our RB room can and has overcame this decision as it gives Valentine more reps. Josh made a financial decision and we have moved on from it.
Really can't say enough how good Valentine looked. He's taken his Sophomore leap.
Joel Goodson
- how was I to know, she was with the Russians too?
never a fan of piling on:
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I was a Brady hater for years saying he was a system QB, etc. When he went and won a super bowl with Tampa Bay and Belichick continued to flop in those years, it became pretty apparent, I was WRONG all those years... Brady WAS the Patriots dynasty, Belichick was lucky to be there for the ride imo.
Yes he has, he is the lightning to our thunder of Laughery and Fegan. He reminds me of Brown on how he can hit the hole and pick up speed.
As you said, I’m assuming he got more money. He’s playing closer to home. People seem to forget he wasn’t getting tons of carries first half of last year, so how many carries would he have gotten here with everybody healthy. I have no problem with him leaving and truly wish him the best. I am bothered that some of the posts on here about him and Twitter seem to revel in the fact he didn’t play much. Team has moved on, and it’s time for fans to do the same.
Bill's not a bad coach the game just passed him by. I know Lovie wasn't as successful as Bill in the NFL but I feel these situations are similar.
Bill brought in 70 new players, there'll be growing pains.
My question is how their "starter" won the job over a guy who could actually complete a forward pass. Come on, Bill.
pruman91
- interviewing new NL's daily....I really really am
when I see the empty seats at Busch III I feel the same way..............I really really do....................
Totally agree that he's not a "bad" coach by any means. There are ALOT of good coaches in the NFL that never win a super bowl. I'm just saying that we put Belichick on this pedestal because of the Super Bowls and I think there are plenty of good coaches who, in his shoes, win a bunch with Brady and the gang.
Also agree on the QB thing... wildly bad.
Rose Bowl was packed weekly back when I was doing security there in the 2010s. Assuming it's the recent direction of the team that has it down.
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
Coincidentally, Pru, a buddy of mine mentioned last week that he was watching a home Cards game on ESPN and was shocked at how small the crowd was. That's just not right.
pruman91
- interviewing new NL's daily....I really really am
yep , one game recently had the lowest attendance in Busch III history...........
Indeed. If uyou make your opponent make enough plays there's more opportunities for your opponent to make mistakes...like getting into situations where (a) the don't make a first down in three plays and (b) they go for it on fourth, and don't make it. Oh, and another mistake, not opting for a field goal attempt and getting some points on the board. Was it two years ago that Michigan beat Illinois with field goals (including that last one where a favorable non-call let them get into field goal range?)
As an Alabama fan who also loves Illinois, this was a brutal weekend. Watching Alabama Saturday night was truly painful. Been a fan since the late 70's and cannot believe how bad they looked. Soft, unprepared, unenthusiastic. It was pretty disgusting to watch. I actually remember watching the last time Bama lost their first game of the season back in 2001 to UCLA. Felt like season was over after that game. Pretty much think the same thing now.
And DeBoer can go away. As soon as possible is ok with me. Realize won't happen until the end of the year. He is now 6-4 against unranked teams. Saban was 124-4 in 17 seasons against unranked teams. Let that soak in.
And DeBoer can go away. As soon as possible is ok with me. Realize won't happen until the end of the year. He is now 6-4 against unranked teams. Saban was 124-4 in 17 seasons against unranked teams. Let that soak in.
Battle89
- Cary-Grove, the better Trojan team
Can't argue with that LOL
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