Week of 3/3 Bracketology

Status
Not open for further replies.
#53      
How likely are we to play. Michigan again in Rd 3 of the BTT?
So currently, if you were guarantee we win our first game in the BTT and you used efficiency metrics, the odds of us playing Michigan is about:

.070*.178+.651*.403+.184*.354+.094*.058 = 34.5%

So relatively high, considering how much variability there is right now.

For reference, as of today, this would be be the likelihood of who we'd play in the BTT quarterfinals if we were to win our first game:

Michigan: 34.5%
MSU: 19.4%
Maryland: 16.1%
Purdue: 12.5%
Other: 17.5%
 
Last edited:
#54      
If we beat Purdue & win 2 in the BTT that’s possibly 10 Quad 1 wins…. We will be top 15ish in NET and predictive metrics.. most years that’s somewhere in the 3/4 seed range. However; this years seeding is a complete mess. Here’s some examples, I want everyone to try to guess what seeds these resumes are on Bracket Matrix…

Team 1:
19-10
5-8 Quad 1
4-2 Quad 2
NET 20
T-Rank 22
4-7 road
6
Kansas


Team 2:
19-10
9-9 Quad 1
1-1 Quad 2
NET 15
T-Rank 23
3-6 road
3
kentucky

Team 3:
23-6
4-4 Quad 1
7-2 Quad 2
NET 24
T-Rank 19
9-2 road
6
louisville

Team 4:
26-4
3-4 Quad 1
8-0 Quad 2
NET 19
T-Rank 18
7-2 road
3
St John’s

Team 5:
19-11
7-10 Quad 1
6-0 Quad 2
NET 16
T-Rank 17
5-5 Road
8
ILLINOIS
Kamala Harris Thank You GIF by The Democrats
 
#55      
0440, close haha.

But there isn't always some deeper meaning behind things.....kids just struggling right now.
Apparently kids aren’t allowed to be struggling and then be visibly frustrated that they are struggling. DGL is competitive. He wants to win, play minutes, and make plays. He’s frustrated and that’s okay. Remember Dain end of last year? He’ll be fine.
 
#56      
So currently, if you were guarantee we win our first game in the BTT and you used efficiency metrics, the odds of us playing Michigan is about:

.070*.178+.651*.403+.184*.354+.094*.058 = 34.5%

So relatively high, considering how much variability there is right now.

For reference, as of today, this would be be the likelihood of who we'd play in the BTT quarterfinals if we were to win our first game:

Michigan: 34.5%
MSU: 19.4%
Maryland: 16.1%
Purdue: 12.5%
Other: 17.5%
I'm not gonna lie, I just blacked out trying to follow the math, but you used a lot of numbers so I'm with you:)

Jokes aside, thanks for breaking it down. I wouldn't be afraid of Michigan again and in general I think we're playing quite a bit better.
 
#58      
Say we win out(not saying it's likely but for seeding purposes) that puts us at 12 Q1 wins. Computers would have us as a 2.....if that's the case probably looking at a 3 seed. Just saying there is a path to the 3/4 line.
I totally agree with this, IF we won out we are a 3 seed not a 4/5. I think we either need to win 2/3 (losing in the quarters and beating PU?) which gets us a 6 I believer or win out to get off the 4/5 line. What I hope does not happen is us spend all the energy to get to the BTT finals and lose only to get a 5 seed?
 
#59      
I'm REALLY hoping to get Drake in the first round in a 6-11 or 7-10 game. Illinois would be an absolute matchup nightmare for them because of our positional size. Drake's tallest player is 6-8. I get they are well-coached and very disciplined, but we might be one of the worst matchups for them imaginable. They do not have anyone who would be able to guard Ivisic, and I think Boswell would do a more than credible job on Bennett Stirtz, who is the odds-on favorite to win MVC player of the year.

 
#60      
If we beat Purdue & win 2 in the BTT that’s possibly 10 Quad 1 wins…. We will be top 15ish in NET and predictive metrics.. most years that’s somewhere in the 3/4 seed range. However; this years seeding is a complete mess. Here’s some examples, I want everyone to try to guess what seeds these resumes are on Bracket Matrix…

Team 1:
19-10
5-8 Quad 1
4-2 Quad 2
NET 20
T-Rank 22
4-7 road
6
Kansas


Team 2:
19-10
9-9 Quad 1
1-1 Quad 2
NET 15
T-Rank 23
3-6 road
3
kentucky

Team 3:
23-6
4-4 Quad 1
7-2 Quad 2
NET 24
T-Rank 19
9-2 road
6
louisville

Team 4:
26-4
3-4 Quad 1
8-0 Quad 2
NET 19
T-Rank 18
7-2 road
3
St John’s

Team 5:
19-11
7-10 Quad 1
6-0 Quad 2
NET 16
T-Rank 17
5-5 Road
8
ILLINOIS
Black Man Reaction GIF by Neesin
 
#61      
4040
Is everything ok with DGL?
His shots were wide open yesterday and he barely drew iron.

Is he still sick?
DGL strength is penetration and scoring in the lane. He is a 25% shooter from 3 and shouldn't be chucking away. unfortunately the last 2 games all of his shots have been from 3 (0-5) and his minutes (9+13) match the effort.
 
#62      
DGL strength is penetration and scoring in the lane. He is a 25% shooter from 3 and shouldn't be chucking away. unfortunately the last 2 games all of his shots have been from 3 (0-5) and his minutes (9+13) match the effort.
I mean DGL's shots the past few games have almost exclusively been wide wide open in rhythm attempts. Those are extremely high quality high efficiency looks for most players and the type of threes you want your players to take. Now I'm in agreement that we seem to have major issues making those type of shots all season, but man, Jaxon freakin Kohler of all people hit those at an 80% clip against us. DGL needs to shoot those. He just isn't making them. Along with most of our team it seems. But that goes back to the argument of you either are allowed to shoot threes or you aren't. If you are, you shoot those.

And really, the reason we blew out Michigan that 2nd half is that we finally started making open threes. I have no issue with DGL taking those shots, just wish they would have gone down for him
 
#63      
I mean DGL's shots the past few games have almost exclusively been wide wide open in rhythm attempts. Those are extremely high quality high efficiency looks for most players and the type of threes you want your players to take. Now I'm in agreement that we seem to have major issues making those type of shots all season, but man, Jaxon freakin Kohler of all people hit those at an 80% clip against us. DGL needs to shoot those. He just isn't making them. Along with most of our team it seems. But that goes back to the argument of you either are allowed to shoot threes or you aren't. If you are, you shoot those.

And really, the reason we blew out Michigan that 2nd half is that we finally started making open threes. I have no issue with DGL taking those shots, just wish they would have gone down for him
Especially given the way the team was crashing the offensive glass. You can get away with missing a lot of 3's when you get a lot of those misses (something that did not happen in the two week slide). If the team is hungry in hunting down offensive rebounds, then I am fine with shooting volume open/in-rhythm 3's.

Hopefully seeing the ball go through the hoop a bit the last two games will be a sign of things to come.
 
#64      
We painted ourselves into a corner a bit. Let's not forget, just a week ago our own fans were saying the team was lost, the locker room was a mess, everyone was transferring and Brad should be fired. That was just one week ago. Some of you know who you are. That doesn't change in a week. We have work to do to move the needle.
None of that matters one bit.

For a picture of where we stand, I look at the others around our seed, and the seeds we aspire to. [Record, Bracket matrix, KP / Miya seed range]
BM 8s:
19-11 Illinois 19 / 9-10 (highest in that range though)
21 - 8 BYU 25 / 6-8
20 - 9 Creighton 37 / 6-8
20-9 UCONN 36 / 6-8
7s
20-9 UCLA 27 / 6-8
20 -9 Miss 26 / 6-8
20-9 Miss St 31 / 3-5
24-5 Memphis 48 / 6-8
6s
21-8 OR 33 / 3-5
27-4 St. Mary's 20 / 6-8
19-10 KS 21 / 6-8
23-6 Louisville 24 / 3-5

For sure some of these teams will pick up another loss or two. I'd guess we're on the 8/9 line today and capable of passing all but a couple of these teams. We might get the benefit of the doubt in seeding from having significant injuries/illness combined with how high our ceiling is. As fans, nobody wants to see them up against a #1 seed before the weekend is over so hopefully they can work back to at least a 7. If they do it, a BTT run would add several quality wins to the resume.
 
#65      
Apparently kids aren’t allowed to be struggling and then be visibly frustrated that they are struggling. DGL is competitive. He wants to win, play minutes, and make plays. He’s frustrated and that’s okay. Remember Dain end of last year? He’ll be fine.
Just asked a simple question dude? Never stated that he can't struggle or be in a slump. Just wanted to see what the Insiders were hearing because DGL is one of my favorite players.
 
#67      
I totally agree with this, IF we won out we are a 3 seed not a 4/5. I think we either need to win 2/3 (losing in the quarters and beating PU?) which gets us a 6 I believer or win out to get off the 4/5 line. What I hope does not happen is us spend all the energy to get to the BTT finals and lose only to get a 5 seed?
The Sunday game doesn't matter, so I really don't think there's anyway we get better than a 4.
 
#70      
There is a crazy world where we can end up with a 3 seed in BTT. Root against all teams above us this week. If they all lose all games, and we win against PU then we end up at the 3. Most likely outcome looks like a 6 though.

If you read the tweet that Dan linked, there are actually 0 probabilities that they end up with the 3 seed. 5 seed is absolute ceiling in my opinion for BTT seeding.
 
#71      
If Illini beat Pudue they will get the 6 seed in the conference. The worst case scenario because they have tie breaker against Oregon and UCLA.

Only happens if Purdue loses to Rutgers in West Lafayette tomorrow night. IU beating Oregon in Eugene tomorrow night means 7 seed is worst case scenario for BTT seeding.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back