sacraig
- The desert
Would it? Or just for @Indy Illini Fan?
Week of 3/3 Bracketology
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Illinicpa14
- Chicago
Playing in Milwaukee in his bracket though would be very nice!Well, it looks like Lunardi now has us on the 6 line. Against UCSD.
I don't really want Iowa State second. Not because they scare me, but because I want more variety than that.
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It will be interesting to see how seeds go. I think this year there really isn’t a huge gap from a 3-7 seeds
If sickness and injuries are truly take into account our resume should be one of the strongest. People say the Duke loss hurts us but margin of victory or losses have minimal impact
Does UK scUM Oregon Missouri Louisville for example have that much better of a resume? Also 3 of those teams we beat on neutral or away courts
Even St John’s has a worse NET ranking than us their game. Their game against Marquette either prove their ranking or raise some questions against a weaker Big East/weak non conference schedule
If sickness and injuries are truly take into account our resume should be one of the strongest. People say the Duke loss hurts us but margin of victory or losses have minimal impact
Does UK scUM Oregon Missouri Louisville for example have that much better of a resume? Also 3 of those teams we beat on neutral or away courts
Even St John’s has a worse NET ranking than us their game. Their game against Marquette either prove their ranking or raise some questions against a weaker Big East/weak non conference schedule
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
Bracket Matrix: Some of those polls are a week old ----- two weeks old ---- a month old ---- or even two months old.
I'd ignore it.
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
We're already better than a 6-seed.
We're now #16 in the NET rankings, so we can call that a fringe 4-seed. Teams ranked better than us in Lunardi's Bracketology (today) who are ranked below us in NET:
#3 Texas A&M (20 in NET)
#3 St. John's (18 in NET)
#5 Oregon (29 in NET) --- we've beaten them AWAY by 30 pts
#5 Missouri (17 in NET) --- we've beaten them on NEUTRAL
#5 Michigan (28 in NET) --- we've beaten them AWAY by 20 pts
#5 Clemson (22 in NET)
We're now #16 in the NET rankings, so we can call that a fringe 4-seed. Teams ranked better than us in Lunardi's Bracketology (today) who are ranked below us in NET:
#3 Texas A&M (20 in NET)
#3 St. John's (18 in NET)
#5 Oregon (29 in NET) --- we've beaten them AWAY by 30 pts
#5 Missouri (17 in NET) --- we've beaten them on NEUTRAL
#5 Michigan (28 in NET) --- we've beaten them AWAY by 20 pts
#5 Clemson (22 in NET)
I do think there's a real possibility the committee takes injuries and missed player time into account in seeding Illinois, especially if Morez comes back and Illinois makes a Sunday run in the B1G tournament, could push them all the way to a 3. I'd probably have them as a 5 right now.
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Would loveeeee to play in front of a big Illini contingent!
We had injuries/sickness with Tomi who has already shown he is back to where he was before mono
KJ was out and came back earlier in the season
Morez coming back would be huge for depth but we have resume where there were a few loses that we weren’t full strength
This time of year they are no more than a few days old.
I'm sure Illinois' RPI is still pretty bad.
EDIT: It is! They're up 7 spots to 34 after yesterday's win.
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
ESPN and Lunardi has us at a 6, playing UC-San Diego in the 1st round. Iowa State is the 3, Alabama the 2, BYU the 7.
All considered, I’ll take it.
All considered, I’ll take it.
Here in lies the issue. We don't really have a marquee win, while at the same time, we do have a couple of filthy losses. It'll be interesting.
sacraig
- The desert
Our issues aren't the losses, it's who we lost to. It's hard to rationalize losing to USC(at home), Northwestern and Rutgers, then get curb stomped by double digits to Duke, Maryland (home), MSU(home) and Wisconsin.
While our overall profile is good because Brad and Co know how to work the system, but if other teams, competing with us, do a deep dive just like we do here....there's a lot to pick at.
Ultimately, we'll have to see if the illness/injuries are taken into consideration. If not, we'll be fighting between a 7 and a 8 and if so, it'll be between a 6 and a 7. I mean, we finished 7th in the Big Ten and we're making a hard push for a 6 seed in a national tournament?
There's a lot to look at. If we want off that 8 line, two wins(MAYBE one) needs to come from the BTT.
JMO
Hope we stay at the 6 seed. Hate ending up a 4 or 5, especially this year the 1's are going to be tough. Hoping someone else knocks them off before we get to them.
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
I’m about to make your day, both of your statements are false. We have 5 Q1A wins (hint: they’re the best type of win available. Purdue, for example, has just 3 of them). And we don’t have a single “bad” loss, which would be a Q3 or Q4 loss, on our resume.
Not trying to be a debbie downer but there is a extremely low chance we rise above the 5 line. Ill happily eat crow if it happens but 5 seems to be our ceiling.
We are still solidly on the 7 line with a chance to jump to the 6 maybe 5 if we make a run in the BTT.
Losses today by Marquette, Miss State, AZ would help out case to continue towards a 6
Isn't there quad 1, then quad 1A? I'll buy what you're selling, but a team like Kentucky flat out has better wins than we do. That's not arguable.
I don't disagree with you regarding the amount of quad 1 and quad 2 wins. I think that, all things being relatively equal, you can't ignore some of our losses and in the nature of how we lost.
I could be WAAAAY off base and probably am. If I take the O & B goggles off and I was doing a comparison.....I don't think that there are teams that got beat by 19 to Wisconsin, 14 to MSU, 20 to MD and 44 to Duke. Maybe that can be ignored?
On top of that, it can't be ignored that losses to NW, Rutgers and USC (who's teetering on a Q3 loss) aren't great.
From a macro level, you are 10000000% right, but if you really dig in(and they will), those are all major warts.
Again, you could be(and probably are) way, way more in the know, but it seems to be that a potion of our resume are ugly.
sacraig
- The desert
I suppose I view 5 as realistic and 4 as our ceiling. But I'd happily win the BTT and get surprised with a 3.
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
If by working the system is playing an extremely challenging schedule and still getting to 20+ wins, then, yes he is great at playing the system.
Duke and Auburn are the best teams this year. Stay out of those brackets the chances of a final four goes up
Between Florida Alabama and Houston one of those will be a 2 seed.
If you do a straight seeding the best 6 seed(21) would have 1(4) 2(5) 3(12) 4(13) 5(20) 6(21) in their bracket.
We just need the right matchups
(#) is overall seed of team
I was thinking the exact same thing. I keep seeing "bad loss" thrown around but I dont't think Q2 losses count as a bad loss.
From a fan perspective, sure, some losses are "bad" in that we think they should have easily won. But I dont think the committee sees it that way. JMO.
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