Wisconsin 91, Illinois 88 OT Postgame
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Beard? The coach of 15-19 Ole Miss?
why? you need someone beat up?
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I almost want a second weekend trip just to avoid the Beard talk for three months.
Brad will be leaving in 2031. No need to have it.
This is the sign Chris Beard used to point at whenever his fiancee got on his case about something.
At least 34 schools have MORE than 1 Sweet 16 since Underwood has been at Illinois. Underwood’s 1 trip past the R32 is below the standard.
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Oh my gosh. Thank you for putting this together! The fire BU crowd should read this everyday before posting. Every school that has had some level of success in the past thinks they just need a new coach to get back there. They fail 99% of the time.
Now do Elite 8s. But first read his post again. I don’t think it took.
Hey, probably a repeat link, yet lessons need to be learned if the Illini are to move forward:
* ILL had fewer rebounds (being the tallest team in the country?)
* ILL had a worse free throw %
* ILL had more personal fouls
* ILL had fewer assists
* ILL had fewer steals
* Refs sucked, yet coaches/players have to be able to do work-arounds and adapt when in that environment.
* Is this for real: ILL has lost 6 OT games this year? Say it ain't so, you got to be kidding!
* Pick your stat among the others in the boxscore, it wasn't pretty for supposedly the best offensive team in the country.
* We can only hope this ship can be turned around come tourney time.
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* ILL had fewer rebounds (being the tallest team in the country?)
* ILL had a worse free throw %
* ILL had more personal fouls
* ILL had fewer assists
* ILL had fewer steals
* Refs sucked, yet coaches/players have to be able to do work-arounds and adapt when in that environment.
* Is this for real: ILL has lost 6 OT games this year? Say it ain't so, you got to be kidding!
* Pick your stat among the others in the boxscore, it wasn't pretty for supposedly the best offensive team in the country.
* We can only hope this ship can be turned around come tourney time.
You can reword it however you want … He’s got 1 second weekend to his name … He’s been here since 2017 … We aren’t a second weekend team right now … Unless we magically figure things out …
Regular season wins ? Good … Not great … Are we hanging banners for regular season wins now ?
I’d gladly be 3rd or 4th in Big Tens wins and have 3 more sweet 16s and two more elite 8s … And maybe that’s just me …
If someone like Beard is ever our coach, I stop being a fan that minute. We all know what happened regardless of the payoff that brushed away the charges. Sometimes being a good person matters more than winning games.
Nobody was expecting Underwood to even make the tourney his first two years, and his third season was Covid, which is why I used that as the operative timeline. How many of your 34 programs does that take out right there?
And then, genuine question, would you rather have made 2 S16s instead of 1, but not made the Elite Eight? Because that's where a lot of those programs are. And then some of us do actually care about conference accolades and BU has 3 conference titles. How many if those 34 can say that? But let's just distill it down to this:
Is there any coach out there that meets both these criteria:
1. More success than Underwood in the last 5 years AND
2. We would actually have a real shot at hiring if we moved on from Underwood
Who fits both those criteria?
Offense is not the problem. Starting Andrej improves defense pretty significantly, which is the problem right now. Davis has been good, but AS is our 2nd best defender. At this point, gotta get your best defenders in there.
I just realized part of the annoyance of this end of the year has been the scheduling. Our team is/was special so I looked forward to every game. Waiting a week between games only to be crushed by Michigan or edged out by Wisconsin is really frustrating as a fan and hard for the team to get their rhythm back. Now we have another week to wait and think about giving up big second half leads. Part of my melancholy is the end of the season fast approaching - no matter how well they do - and having to say goodbye to another great roster.
I'm frustrated with Brad as much as anyone, but you make a very compelling case. I do think NIL changes things quite a bit so evaluating pre-NIL may not be totally fair. But certainly some valid points here.
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I had to stop watching when we were up 15 in the second half because I was locked up in meetings the rest of the day, but I just flipped today’s game on and it appears we’re not playing? Did we get some type of a special bye into the championship game or something?
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There are only 2 people whose coaching opinion matter. Neither of those people post here (probably).
One is Brad, and whether he wants to continue at Illinois. I think he does.
The other is Josh Whitman. I trust his leadership completely. All indications are he wants Brad to continue. Not sure the OT losses and a 3 seed are going to change his mind and roll the dice on a new hire.
One is Brad, and whether he wants to continue at Illinois. I think he does.
The other is Josh Whitman. I trust his leadership completely. All indications are he wants Brad to continue. Not sure the OT losses and a 3 seed are going to change his mind and roll the dice on a new hire.
What was our FT% in the last 6 minutes of the OT games we lost?
And to add to what you have already written. There is definitely a reason for the drop off in the FT% in important situations. But as an observer (not a coach) I have no idea how that problem gets remedied.
Teams have hung banners for regular season wins since the beginning of basketball time.You can reword it however you want … He’s got 1 second weekend to his name … He’s been here since 2017 … We aren’t a second weekend team right now … Unless we magically figure things out …
Regular season wins ? Good … Not great … Are we hanging banners for regular season wins now ?
I’d gladly be 3rd or 4th in Big Tens wins and have 3 more sweet 16s and two more elite 8s … And maybe that’s just me …
It’s a lot more fun to just keep screaming unacceptable everytime the team loses than actually share names.
Everytime this question is asked, it’s never actually answered and you’ll get some speech on demanding more and some bizarre formula on ROI that makes no sense
and what we've got from that is 1 conference title and 2 tournament titles. Hey I love winning, but where's the hardware?
What frustrates me is, we had Ayo and Kofi, 2 AAs and we couldn't win the conference. In fact, that team lost 2 home games. We got a #1 seed and basically got our butts kicked in round 2.
We've seen a string of AAs, 1st team All Big Ten, NBA 1st round draft picks. But we always blow some stupid game and end up having a nice season with ultimately nothing to show for it. As I mentioned in a previous post, we're very grateful that Underwood has brought us back to consistent success, but the goal is always championships, and I don't think Underwood is going to bring us championships.
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